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PostSubject: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:55 pm

FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2013

From one street course to another, Formula One rolls into Montreal this weekend for Canada for the Formula 1 Grand Prix Du Canada 2012. The Circuit-Gilles Villeneuve hosts the seventh round of the 2013 FIA Formula 1 World Championship.





The Formula One Canadian Grand Prix was held at a number of circuits since the first race in 1961. However, the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve hosted the Canadian GP for 30 consecutive years up until 2008. The circuit is named after the late Gilles Villeneuve who tragically died in a racing accident. This manmade island was specifically created for Formula 1 racing; however, the circuit has hosted Champ Car races, lower-division NASCAR races and Grand-Am races over the years.

The Canadian Grand Prix is easily one of the most popular races on the calendar; there has been a sell-out crowd for years now with over 100,000 fans on race day – this shows the local passion for Formula 1 and motor racing. The circuit’s unforgiving walls and plentiful overtaking opportunities can make this a very unpredictable and chaotic race. Which ensures that the Canadian Grand Prix is not only always a brilliant motor race, but the race is greatly welcomed by race fans.

Canadian GP fast facts

-Driving direction: Clockwise
-Length of pit straight: 0.31 mile
-Average speed of lap: 133 mph
-Longest period at full throttle: 14 seconds
-Full throttle percentage: 70 %
-Time on brakes: 20 %
-Gear changes per lap: 50
-Highest g-force: 3.6 g
--Total race distance: 189 miles

Overtaking opportunities

Whereas Monaco was the hardest track on which to overtake on, Montreal perhaps offers the best passing opportunities of any circuit. The lap itself is one of the shortest on the calendar, but, the long straightaways followed by heavy braking into tight chicanes is the reason why overtaking is plentiful here.

Turn 1 is the first overtaking opportunity. The cars build up to approximately 185 mph before braking to just 84 mph. This is a heavy braking zone that has a wide entry, we usually see this move pulled off if a driver has a poor exit off turn 13 by defending and taking a tight line – allowing a driver behind to take the optimum line through the final chicane and use his extra speed to pass his rival into turn 1. The next passing opportunity comes at turn 8. The drivers will build up to 190 mph and brake to just 74 mph for the chicane. The entry to the corner is relatively narrow, so drivers need to be fully alongside to make this move stick.

The hairpin of turn 10 is good passing place, mainly because of the severe braking to just 34 mph; the variation in braking distances is why overtaking is common here. Now the cars will power down the back straightaway to around over 200 mph before braking to just 83 mph for turn 13. This is the biggest braking zone on the whole circuit, and with the high straightaway speeds compared to the entry speed into turn 13 – it is easy to see why.

The FIA have decided to revert back to having two DRS zones in Montreal. The detection point for the first DRS zone between turns 10 and 13 comes after turn 9. After cars tackle the final chicane, there is an additional DRS zone along the pit straightway. These are ordinarily excellent overtaking opportunities; so there should be a lot of action in these sections on Sunday.

What to watch for

The unforgiving walls to the outside of corners, and lack of access for marshals often result in Safety Car periods around Montreal. This likelihood of SC periods may also increase as the GP progresses, with tyre marbles leaving little room for error in the corners.

A soft brake pedal or brake failure is not unheard of around Circuit-Gilles Villeneuve. The frequent heavy braking zones punish the discs and callipers, and if enough cooling is not allowed for the brakes, failure or less braking ability can occur. With downforce cut for good straight-line speed, tyre wear can be high in Montreal. The drivers can’t enjoy the downforce they’re used to, which normally protects the tyres with less sliding.
Car requirements

The Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve is a complete departure in car requirements compared to most of the circuits that F1 has visited so far this year. Some of the key characteristics can be found at Monza. With a number of straightaways that see the cars exceed 180 mph, good straight line speed is essential at this track – this means that ultimate engine power and efficient aerodynamics are very important. Teams will bring flatter wings, for example – to increase straight line speed. A low downforce package is required, due to long straightaways and lack of high speed sweepers.

This circuit is the most punishing one on brakes that we visit on the calendar; there are five major stops from 180 mph or more into tight chicanes. This means that teams bring bigger cooling ducts for this race, to allow more air to be channelled to the discs and calliper’s so they don’t overheat under intense forces for 70 laps. The low downforce package means there will be less aerodynamic drag under braking, putting more strain on the braking systems. Brake failure can happen in Montreal, and, with 10 % more energy going through the braking systems compared to before the refuelling ban (source: Renault – higher base weight limit from 2012 and full tanks of fuel) – conservation of braking systems will be even more critical.

A soft suspension set-up is also required to ride the chicane kerbing, and this will only happen with suspension that is compliant that will not be overly sensitive to movement and will not bottom out – this will give drivers good mechanical grip which is critical for getting good exits onto the long straights.

Tyre selections

Pirelli will bring their Super Soft and Medium compound P Zero tyres to Canada. The graphic below shows Pirelli’s 2013 range of P Zero tyres:



Video footage

Here is an onboard lap of Circuit-Gilles Villeneuve with Vitantonio Liuzzi, driving his Force India-Mercedes Benz to a sixth starting spot for the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix:



Weekend schedule in UK time:

Thursday 07 June 2013

Friday Practice 1 15:00 – 16:30
Friday Practice 2 19:00 – 20:30

Sat 08 June 2013

Saturday Practice 15:00 – 16:00
Qualifying 18:00

Sun 09 June 2013

Start of Formation Lap 19:00
2013 Monaco Grand Prix Race Start 19:03

Full weekend schedule in local time

Thursday 6th June:

Open House  09:00 – 12:00
F1 Drivers Autograph Session  09:30 – 11:00
Formula One Press Conference - Press Room   11:00

Friday 7th June:

Ferrari Challenge First Practice Session (20 Mins)  08:50 – 09:10
Formula One Practice 1   10:00 – 11:30
CTCC Practice Session (30 Mins)  11:55 – 12:25
Formula Paddock Club Pit Walk   12:30 – 13:30
Formula One Practice 2   14:00 – 15:30
Ferrari Challenge Second Practice Session (20 Mins)  15:55 – 16:15
Formula One Press Conference - Press Room   16:00 – 17:00
CTCC Qualifying Session (30 Mins)  16:30 – 17:00
Porsche IMSA GT3 Practice Session  17:15 – 17:45
Formula 1600 Qualifying (30 Mins)  18:00 – 18:30

Saturday  8th June

Formula One Pit Stop Practice   07:30 – 08:30
Ferrari Challege Qualifying Session (30 Mins)  08:45 – 09:15
Formula One Practice 3   10:00 – 11:00
Porsche IMSA GT3 Qualifying Session (30 Mins)  11:15 – 11:45
Formula Paddock Club Pit Walk   11:50 – 12:45
Formula One Qualifying   13:00
Formula 1600 First Race (30 Mins)  14:30 – 15:00
CTCC First Race (30 Mins)  15:30 – 16:00
Ferrari Challenge First Race (30 Mins)  16:30 – 17:00
Porsche IMSA GT3 First Race (30 Mins)   17:30 – 18:00

Sunday 9th June

CTCC Second Race (30 Mins)  09:00 – 09:30
Formula 1600 Second Race (30 Mins)  09:45 – 10:15
Porsche IMSA GT3 Second Race (30 Mins)  10:30 – 11:00
Ferrari Challenge Second Race (30 Mins)  11:15 – 11:45
Formula One Paddock Club Pit Walk   12:00 – 13:15
Formula One Drivers Parade   12:30
Formula One Starting Grid Presentation 12:45 – 13:15
Formula One National Anthem  13:46
CF-18 Canadian Air Force Fly Pass  13:47
Start of Formula One Formation Lap 14:00
Start of 2013 Formula 1 Canadian Grand Prix   14:03

UK Television schedules – BST time

In addition to Sky F1’s coverage of the 2013 Candian Grand Prix, BBC is showing this weekend’s Grand Prix sessions live. All live sessions can also be viewed on BBC’s F1 website, free of charge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/

Friday 7th June

BBC Red Button Coverage

Practice 1: 15:45-16:45, BBC Two/BBC Two HD & BBC Sport website
Practice 2: 19:00-21:00, BBC Three & 18:55-20:35, BBC Radio 5 live sports extra & BBC Sport website

Sky Sports F1 Coverage

Practice One: 14.45
Practice Two: 18.45

Saturday 8th June

BBC Coverage

Practice 3: 14:55-16:10, BBC Two/BBC Two HD & BBC Sport website
Qualifying: 17:00-19:00, BBC One/BBC Red Button & BBC Sport website

Sky Sports F1 Coverage

Practice Three: 14:45
Qualifying: 17:00

Sunday 9th June

BBC Coverage

Grand Prix live : 18:15-21:10, BBC One/Red Button & BBC 5 live sport from 18:00 & BBC Sport website

Sky Sports F1 Coverage

Race: 17.30 pm

Live timing and scoring is available for every session at http://www.formula1.com/ Registration is required to view live timing. If you wish to watch this Grand Prix outside the UK, please check your local listings.

Previous winners of Canadian Grand Prix

2004 – Michael Schumacher – Ferrari
2005 – Kimi Raikkonen – McLaren-Mercedes Benz
2006 – Fernando Alonso – Renault
2007 – Lewis Hamilton – McLaren-Mercedes Benz
2008 – Robert Kubica – BMW-Sauber
2010 – Lewis Hamilton – McLaren-Mercedes Benz
2011 – Jenson Button – McLaren-Mercedes Benz
2012 – Lewis Hamilton – McLaren-Mercedes Benz

Enjoy the Grand Prix!

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:04 pm

We shouldn't forget that this Grand Prix is starting at 7 pm in the evening on Sunday. This is a great GP for UK viewers, with prime-time coverage on BBC 1.

This race will automatically be exciting because it starts in the evening. There might be more Safety Car periods, debris-related Safety Car periods because of the evening start.

Much research has shown the excitement that evening racing can offer.

I really liked the red-flag period at Monaco, this somehow built the excitement for the final stage of the GP. If there was a red-flag in Montreal it could additionally spice up the show.


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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:11 pm

i should be able to see the race. missed everything so far and miss the quali
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:57 am

The surprise of that qualifying has to be Bottas, yikes, where did that come from? It will be interesting to see how long Bottas can retain third place in the race…

Whereas tyre preservation has been the name of the game so far this season, warming up the tyres seemed critical in the low-temperature, wet conditions.

I gave Massa the benefit of the doubt for the Monaco crashes, but today was most definitely his fault. He lost the rear under braking and was a passenger at that point. It could be argued that anybody can crash in the wet, but someone of Massa’s experience?

The field is a little mixed; with Massa, Alonso, Button, Perez and Grosjean in strange starting positions. Tomorrow should be a cracker.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Very sad news in Montreal; a marshal has been killed after being run over a crane. As he attempted to remove Gutierrez’s crashed Sauber, the poor bloke was trying to get his headset and as he stumbled, he was run over: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8768481/A-track-worker-has-died-after-falling-under-a-recovery-vehicle-at-the-Canadian-GP
RIP to the marshal and condolences his family.

I don’t wish to make capital out of this situation, but IMO, too many accidents are cleared up through local yellow flags. Fact is, cars can still be going at 160 mph + in a double-waved yellow zone, does that sound particularly safe, when marshals are only metres away from the track?

Marshals need more respect in general. Currently, the FIA only requires drivers to lift-off during a yellow flag zone, but as I said, drivers are still going extremely fast in yellow flag zones.
I’ve never been a marshal, but it must feel extremely pressurising to clear an accident whilst cars are still circulating at great speed. The FIA are desperate not to call the Safety Car, but imo, Safety Car periods would allow marshals to work in a safer manner. Sure, accidents can still happen under Safety Car, but the marshals would have plenty of time to recover vehicles in a safer manner that wouldn't be a mad scramble.

More Safety Car periods or requiring drivers to slow down more is needed.

I am not saying that this poor marshal got run over because of pressure to clear the accident. However, the rush to clear wreckages under green-flag conditions can’t help.

Two years ago in Montreal, Kobayashi almost run over a marshal because a marshal tried to recover debris under racing conditions. Marshals deserve more respect, and more slowing down is needed in double-waved zones.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:09 pm

The Grand Prix itself was superb. Sadly, there wasn’t a race for the victory. However, there was so much overtaking elsewhere. It was telling how many overtakes were completed in non-DRS zones, it illustrates the great passing opportunities that Montreal provides.

Could Van der Garde be more gormless if he tried?

“oh, here you go Mark Webber, have the position. No! I’ve changed my mind, I’m going to squeeze you into the hairpin, even though I’m supposed to let you through”.
Van der Garde is a complete waste of space and was barley good enough for GP2, let alone F1.

Sutil is another gormless driver. Is he blind? He got two laps of blue flags, and failed to let Hamilton through. Alonso was close behind Lewis, but following Sutil’s car lost him valuable time.

Sutil failed to realise the classiness and exclusivity of a Mercedes-Benz vehicle behind him, Sutil should receive a race-ban for this.

Well done to Di Resta – 50-odd laps out of a set of tyres is no mean feat.

McLaren – what a total disaster.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:48 pm

Petronas Syntium wrote:
Very sad news in Montreal; a marshal has been killed after being run over a crane. As he attempted to remove Gutierrez’s crashed Sauber, the poor bloke was trying to get his headset and as he stumbled, he was run over: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8768481/A-track-worker-has-died-after-falling-under-a-recovery-vehicle-at-the-Canadian-GP
RIP to the marshal and condolences his family.

I don’t wish to make capital out of this situation, but IMO, too many accidents are cleared up through local yellow flags. Fact is, cars can still be going at 160 mph + in a double-waved yellow zone, does that sound particularly safe, when marshals are only metres away from the track?

Marshals need more respect in general. Currently, the FIA only requires drivers to lift-off during a yellow flag zone, but as I said, drivers are still going extremely fast in yellow flag zones.
I’ve never been a marshal, but it must feel extremely pressurising to clear an accident whilst cars are still circulating at great speed. The FIA are desperate not to call the Safety Car, but imo, Safety Car periods would allow marshals to work in a safer manner. Sure, accidents can still happen under Safety Car, but the marshals would have plenty of time to recover vehicles in a safer manner that wouldn't be a mad scramble.

More Safety Car periods or requiring drivers to slow down more is needed.

I am not saying that this poor marshal got run over because of pressure to clear the accident. However, the rush to clear wreckages under green-flag conditions can’t help.

Two years ago in Montreal, Kobayashi almost run over a marshal because a marshal tried to recover debris under racing conditions. Marshals deserve more respect, and more slowing down is needed in double-waved zones.

A safety wouldn't of helped as it happened after the race ended, not during.
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:26 pm

it was an ok GP

thoughts are with family of the marshal.

Vettel destroyed. was never going to be caught, i was watching the timing screen and he was just much quicker....although webber got fastest lap. alonso was super quick aswell. the timing screen was great to watch, i found myself watching more than the tv.

what di resta did is what the tyres should be. if want to go 1 stop great and the front runners can do 2 and it made it better. IMO

Mclaren...... "pfft" thats all

Maldonado oh dear and people say he is future world champ....not unless the money he brings in will buy him a replica


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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:02 pm

Jeremy Aardvark wrote:
Petronas Syntium wrote:
Very sad news in Montreal; a marshal has been killed after being run over a crane. As he attempted to remove Gutierrez’s crashed Sauber, the poor bloke was trying to get his headset and as he stumbled, he was run over: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8768481/A-track-worker-has-died-after-falling-under-a-recovery-vehicle-at-the-Canadian-GP
RIP to the marshal and condolences his family.

I don’t wish to make capital out of this situation, but IMO, too many accidents are cleared up through local yellow flags. Fact is, cars can still be going at 160 mph + in a double-waved yellow zone, does that sound particularly safe, when marshals are only metres away from the track?

Marshals need more respect in general. Currently, the FIA only requires drivers to lift-off during a yellow flag zone, but as I said, drivers are still going extremely fast in yellow flag zones.
I’ve never been a marshal, but it must feel extremely pressurising to clear an accident whilst cars are still circulating at great speed. The FIA are desperate not to call the Safety Car, but imo, Safety Car periods would allow marshals to work in a safer manner. Sure, accidents can still happen under Safety Car, but the marshals would have plenty of time to recover vehicles in a safer manner that wouldn't be a mad scramble.

More Safety Car periods or requiring drivers to slow down more is needed.

I am not saying that this poor marshal got run over because of pressure to clear the accident. However, the rush to clear wreckages under green-flag conditions can’t help.

Two years ago in Montreal, Kobayashi almost run over a marshal because a marshal tried to recover debris under racing conditions. Marshals deserve more respect, and more slowing down is needed in double-waved zones.

A safety wouldn't of helped as it happened after the race ended, not during.

Are you sure? I must admit I didn't see the crane incident myself, but the Sauber was cleared from the track before the Grand Prix ended. That must have meant that the incident happened during the GP. The yellow flag was definitely withdrawn before the end.

I find it hilarious how Maldonado never thinks anything is ever his fault. When he deliberately crashed into Hamilton at Spa and Valencia, and deliberately crashed into Perez at Monaco, that somehow wasn’t his fault???

If that oil money ever dried up, the P45 would be in the post ASAP.

Maldonado has the Grosjean-bug: sometimes fast, but unable to control his speed or remain composure.



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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:04 pm

Alonso takes a swipe at Perez - go Nando!

Quote :
"With Lewis," Alonso said, "we were really very close on pace and there were some moments going out of Turn Eight to see who had the DRS detection point and then in Turn 10 the same thing, at the last chicane, so there was some action there.

"But it was nice to have these battles, particularly this race with so talented drivers, so intelligent drivers, that, you know, you fight wheel-to-wheel at 315km/h and you feel safe.

"You feel you are racing and you are competing. It can go your way or it can go the other way, but this is real racing. So, very happy to see this back after Monaco. It's a little bit different."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22837189

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:23 pm

Petronas Syntium wrote:
Jeremy Aardvark wrote:
Petronas Syntium wrote:
Very sad news in Montreal; a marshal has been killed after being run over a crane. As he attempted to remove Gutierrez’s crashed Sauber, the poor bloke was trying to get his headset and as he stumbled, he was run over: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8768481/A-track-worker-has-died-after-falling-under-a-recovery-vehicle-at-the-Canadian-GP
RIP to the marshal and condolences his family.

I don’t wish to make capital out of this situation, but IMO, too many accidents are cleared up through local yellow flags. Fact is, cars can still be going at 160 mph + in a double-waved yellow zone, does that sound particularly safe, when marshals are only metres away from the track?

Marshals need more respect in general. Currently, the FIA only requires drivers to lift-off during a yellow flag zone, but as I said, drivers are still going extremely fast in yellow flag zones.
I’ve never been a marshal, but it must feel extremely pressurising to clear an accident whilst cars are still circulating at great speed. The FIA are desperate not to call the Safety Car, but imo, Safety Car periods would allow marshals to work in a safer manner. Sure, accidents can still happen under Safety Car, but the marshals would have plenty of time to recover vehicles in a safer manner that wouldn't be a mad scramble.

More Safety Car periods or requiring drivers to slow down more is needed.

I am not saying that this poor marshal got run over because of pressure to clear the accident. However, the rush to clear wreckages under green-flag conditions can’t help.

Two years ago in Montreal, Kobayashi almost run over a marshal because a marshal tried to recover debris under racing conditions. Marshals deserve more respect, and more slowing down is needed in double-waved zones.

A safety wouldn't of helped as it happened after the race ended, not during.

Are you sure? I must admit I didn't see the crane incident myself, but the Sauber was cleared from the track before the Grand Prix ended. That must have meant that the incident happened during the GP. The yellow flag was definitely withdrawn before the end.

I find it hilarious how Maldonado never thinks anything is ever his fault. When he deliberately crashed into Hamilton at Spa and Valencia, and deliberately crashed into Perez at Monaco, that somehow wasn’t his fault???

If that oil money ever dried up, the P45 would be in the post ASAP.

Maldonado has the Grosjean-bug: sometimes fast, but unable to control his speed or remain composure.



Yes, they moved the car to a safe pace during the race and it was when they were moving it again, I assume back the pits te accident happened.
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:49 am

A decent enough race that seemed to give an idea of the true pace of the cars when the drivers aren't having to drive within the limits of the tyres.

Perhaps the conditions of the race, as well as the layout of the circuit itself, allowed them to push harder without having to worry so much about the tyres turning to chewing gum. Appears to be the first time this year when there's been open comments from the majority that they could run freely without too much worry. What are the odds the FIA and Bernie have said to Pirelli and Hembrey to make the tyres act like those used in Canada over a season? Rolling Eyes

All condolences to the family of the marshall. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2013 CANADIAN GRAND PRIX - MONTREAL   Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:35 am

Canada particularly suited the Red Bull; the lack of high-loading corners disguised the car’s excessive degradation. In general, everyone could push harder because the different stresses on the tyres.

On a track that didn’t play to Ferrari’s strengthens, Alonso finished second. It was very impressive. More impressively, Ferrari appeared to make good progress to rectify the car’s weakness. In contrast, Red Bull is still struggling to contain their car’s weaknesses. 

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