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PostSubject: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:38 pm

1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Webber
6. Hulkenberg
7. Grosjean
8. Bianchi
9. Button
10. Massa

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:27 am

Hmm, wait there - might need to think about this - but your order is very good.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:33 am

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Hmm, wait there - might need to think about this - but your order is very good.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:35 am

Well actually, I like the list if it is genuine anyway. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:36 am

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:47 am

1. Alonso. Time and time again, Alonso proves his class and is the most complete driver on the grid. Last year, he almost won the title with a car that wasn’t up to the job in dry conditions. In practice and in qualifying, the F2012 struggled to finish in the top five at times. I truly believe that Alonso found something in himself to finish where he did last season. In a rare occurrence, it was driver over car last year.

In 2005 and 2006, he drove some amazing races against Michael Schumacher when the latter was in his prime. 2010 was another stand-out year for Alonso, and it was a similar situation to 2012.

Relentless speed, adaptability, judgment and consistency.

2. Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton’s records are impressive, with 21 Grand Prix victories and a world title – but they don’t reflect the true talent of Hamilton in my opinion. Like Alonso, Hamilton will adapt to whatever car he has and go fast. This is the true mark of a great driver, when a driver rises to the top and out-paces the teammate week in, week out.

Hamilton is possibly the fastest qualifier on the grid, and is known as a hard-charging driver that is hard on his tyres, but does the evidence suggest that? In the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix, it was Lewis who conserved his tyres and won the race. In the 2011 Chinese Grand Prix, Lewis bided his time and made sure not to drive flat-out, to ensure he had enough to pass Vettel at the end.

When the car is working well, Hamilton is actually a very smooth driver. If one observes some of his pole laps, he isn’t fighting the car and jumping on the throttle too early. His steering inputs are very smooth. Does Hamilton like conserving tyres? No – he is a natural balls-out racer; however, he does it very well.

In 2009, he drove dreadful car to third position in Melbourne from the back of the grid. It dispelled the myths that Lewis could only perform in the fastest car, in fact, he excels when having to overtake.

Now at Mercedes-Benz, Hamilton looks comfortable at his new team, and so far is beating Rosberg when it matters in qualifying and in the race.

Lewis has made his fair share of errors, but his raw talent is staggering – and he is developing a composure that is making him a more complete driver. Although he’s had a fine F1 career, his GP2 drives at Silverstone and in Turkey will always be my favourite drives of Hamilton – it was talent-overload. No car advantage – just great driving.


3. Sebastian Vettel. Vettel is a supreme talent, and his ability to grab pole position shouldn’t be underestimated. Yes, Vettel has had an extremely dominant car since 2009, but he still needs to qualify and not lock-up, ace every apex etc – he is a human being but sometimes his performances are robotic – and that’s a compliment.

There are reservations with Vettel. In essence, Vettel has been driving the same car since Silverstone 2009, but the car has gradually been improved and tweaked. In comparison, Alonso and Hamilton have had to drive completely different cars since 2009. Even though Alonso has been at Ferrari since 2010, he has driven a new car in almost every new season – and Hamilton has had a similar experience.

This is not Vettel’s fault, because nobody chooses to have a slow car. However, even though Vettel has won three world titles – the car and circumstances have been almost identical in all three years.

Vettel has also made some fairly serious mistakes around other cars, mistakes which he and Red Bull don’t think are mistakes. Turkey 2010 saw the team hug him even though he crashed into Webber. Vettel won’t improve as a driver if the team makes him think nothing is ever his fault.

4. Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen has driven for Sauber, McLaren-Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari and now Lotus – he has excelled at each team. Raikkonen’s natural speed is superb, but is also a cautious driver like Alonso who seems like a great driver to go wheel-to-wheel with, he won’t barge drivers off the circuit like others would. He is aggressive, but is almost gentlemanly at the same time.

As with other drivers, Raikkonen has beaten or matched all of his teammates on speed – this is a key test of any driver – the driver who sits in the same garage as you.

5. Jenson Button. Jenson is unbeatable on some weekends, and reads the track conditions like few others can when it rains. He won the 2009 title and kept his composure. However, Jenson lacks consistency in speed to be a truly great F1 driver. He is very fixated in car preferences, preferring an understeery balance. If he doesn’t have the car perfectly dialed in, he seems to struggle.

In comparison, Alonso or Hamilton can extract the most from the car with small imperfections. I doubt that Button will win another world title, because he doesn’t have the raw speed to challenge for victories every weekend. It should be commended that Button judges racing situations well and doesn’t crash very often, however; raw speed, week-in, week-out speed is needed to be a true great – and Button doesn’t have that.

6. Mark Webber. Mark Webber is a proven racer, and has won some of the most coveted events on the calendar, with double wins at Monaco and Silverstone respectively. He pulled out amazing qualifying laps at Jaguar, and arguably beat Coulthard when both teams were teammates at Red Bull.

Webber had a good shot at the 2010 title, but a crash in Korea ultimately ended his title hopes. Since then, Vettel has largely had the measure on Webber, even though if Webber has delivered a fair few victories since then. Webber has the Button syndrome, because there are occasions where Webber is unbeatable – but this is too much of a rarity to mount a realistic title challenge.

7. Nico Rosberg. Rosberg had a great start to his F1 career, when he finished in the points and overtook a lot of cars in the 2006 Bahrain Grand Prix. After that, Williams’ season disintegrated and so with it Rosberg’s form. Rosberg continued to be mired with poor cars until 2010, when he joined Mercedes-Benz. Contrary to popular opinion, Rosberg thrashed Michael Schumacher – this gave Rosberg a lot of credibility.

Rosberg is very fast and smooth, and having Hamilton as a teammate might be his ultimate test. So far, Nico has shown superior pace in practice and parts of qualifying, but Hamilton has delivered where it matters at the start of races. That will be a fascinating battle to watch.

8. Nico Hulkenberg. Hulkenberg is somewhat an unknown quantity, but has delivered performances that indicate he is the real deal. Last year, he debuted in Formula 1 and beat teammate Paul Di Resta, and led some of the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix before spinning out.

Hulkenberg’s decision to move to Sauber doesn’t make a lot of sense, but let’s hope he has a shot at a top drive…Mr Perez shouldn’t be at McLaren – Hulkenberg should. In particular, Nico’s A1GP win at a very wet Sepang will always be very special – he was in a different league on that day.

9. Felipe Massa. Since joining Ferrari, Massa has played some different roles. He in-effect started as Schumacher’s assistance, but Schumacher’s departure allowed Massa to drive for himself and he almost had a fair shot at race victories against Kimi. 2008 saw him almost winning the world title, but the 2008 finale was Massa’s final GP victory.

Massa’s accident destablised him for a while, and combined with the talent of Alonso – Massa has struggled to even score podiums in race-winning cars. Ferrari likes Massa because he doesn’t bother Alonso too much, so Massa might stay at Ferrari for a while longer.

10. Paul Di Resta. Di Resta came into F1 and almost looked a veteran, because he was matching Sutil from early on and smartly drove a lot of races. Di Resta did get outpaced by Hulkenberg last year, but Di Resta is proving to be a solid driver. Perhaps Di Resta needs to drive a top-car so he can really show what he can do, or rather not…








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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:55 am

That's a good list.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:50 pm

Thanks. I was tempted to put Nico Hulkenberg higher, he has driven some great races and I have an inkling he might turn out to be a great. However, other drivers have actually won races and podiums – so they are more known quantities.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:48 am

Its is always hard to Judge but here goes.

1: Vettel
2: Alonso
3: Button
4: Raikkonen
5: Hamilton
6: Hulkenberg
7: Maldonado
8: Di Resta
9: Grosjean
10: Massa
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:19 am

Now that's an interesting list why do you think vettel is at number one?
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 (best drivers in f1)   Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:06 am

Maldonado is better than Massa, Di Resta and Grosjean.... affraid lol!

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