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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Wed May 01, 2013 9:44 pm

they have aN DTM app and they have live stream bit on it, i am hoping they show the race live. its a good app!
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Sun May 05, 2013 9:45 pm



Live stream of the race please note
Due to right issues you cannot watch the live stream in the following countries: Germany, Brazil, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Romania, Hungary, Thailand, Israel, Malaysia, Brunei, Portugal.

So the UK is good to go Do one ESPN!
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon May 06, 2013 9:13 am

The youtube streaming was a revolution, wasn’t it?

This is the best decision that DTM has made in some time. Why hide away your product on stubborn, uninterested TV stations? This gives fans what they want. The age of TV-only coverage is over.

I thought the race was pretty good; there was a lot of overtaking throughout the field. I am cautious, however. Hockenheim is perfectly tailored to DTM cars, with long straights and very heavy braking zones. DRS seemed unnecessary, but the option tyre ensured battles until the end.

Usually, DTM races become very stale in the second-half, but the option tyre promotes different approaches – which results in differing speeds of cars.

If I had a proviso, it would be that most DTM tracks are tighter and have shorter straightaways. DRS itself will be redundant at the smaller track’s, and better tyres will also be redundant if there is nowhere to overtake.

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon May 06, 2013 11:03 pm

DRS was good it helped to over in places and to close the gap.
option tyre was good and i think it was great addention to the series because i doubt dirk werner would of made up from dead last to 2nd if it wasn't for DRS and option tyre i dont think he would of.

The DRS in the other race tracks will be interesting. brands could be the only weird track with been so sort at 1,929 km. for that race, i would start on normal tires and then see how long the options last and have the faster tyre at the end.

its been good start for DTM lets hope it continues. looking forward to going to zandvoort.

streaming on the net? who would thought it was a good idea Wink

I think British GT should do it next. If you can get it on live on TV its and added extra FIA GT sprint series is online and TV.....
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Tue May 07, 2013 12:14 am

British gt will have some races live on motors tv before the end of the year and live radio today from rockingham and maybe more races.
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Tue May 07, 2013 8:27 am

thats good that its on motors for people who have motors TV lol.

i listen to radio le mans coverage of rock race, but only the first hour work stepped in!


I was shocked how well merc did consider what they roll out. driving line is not brilliant all did canny well.
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Tue May 07, 2013 6:09 pm

Hockenheim has always produced good DTM races; the long back straightaway, hairpin and run to the Mercedes-Benz arena is ideally tailored to overtaking.

DRS and option tyres are welcome, and it shows that the organisers have woken up and realised that the racing was dire. However, touring car racing should be about balls-out driving and body panel-rubbing.

Spectators can watch F1 for option tyre and DRS, touring car racing should offer something different. A lot of the aero winglets need to be scrapped and the overall downforce level needs to be reduced.

Brands Hatch is the most obvious track to question usage of DRS, but Zanvoort, Euro Speedway, Oschersleben and the Nurburgring have been difficult circuits to overtake on. DRS works well in Formula 1 because most circuits have long straights, most DTM circuits have shorter straights.



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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Sat May 18, 2013 10:18 am

Is anybody else going to Brands Hatch? If so, I'll see you there. alien

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Sat May 18, 2013 9:46 pm

i was going to go but its just to far away for me to get there. so i am off to zandvoort for a DTM instead.

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Sat May 18, 2013 10:11 pm

At least you can enjoy that.


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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon May 20, 2013 12:01 am

DRS at brands....not sure it worked to be honest....stright not long enough. should DTM move tracks?
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon May 20, 2013 8:41 am

It depends. DRS was never going to have a dramatic impact at Brands Hatch Indy, the pit straight is too short for plentiful overtaking. However, there were a number of overtakes made with DRS assistance, and passes were completed into turn 1.

It isn’t a high standard, but there was more passing of any DTM race at Brands Hatch since 2006. The battles throughout the field were pretty entertaining.

However, I would still prefer if DTM moved to another UK circuit. Snetterton or Donington would be ideal. DTM cars are extremely wide, fragile and have short braking distances – none of that suit’s Brands Hatch – not even the GP circuit.

It must be said, Brands Hatch is always a lovely facility to visit. Spectator facilities are well laid-out, facilities are well-maintained, staff are generally pleasant, spectator banks aren't irritating to walk on, and the displays are decent.

This is probably why DTM hasn't moved from Brands Hatch....fans just keep coming back.

If DTM cars were sturdier, had steel brakes, the winglets were removed and contact was encouraged - Brands Indy would be an amazing show. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:21 pm

DTM really impressed me yesterday. The racing was exciting and very un-DTM like.

This is something I noticed at Brands Hatch, but the cars are moving around and are unstable like I haven’t seen DTM cars in a long time. Perhaps the faster degrading tyres are making the cars look “looser”. In loaded corners, the cars look edgier than in previous seasons.

One must respect Marco Wittmann – he gave the far more experienced Spengler a very tough time.

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:26 am

It's definitely looking more like the BMW is the car to be in this year. Mercedes on the other hand seemed to have dropped the proverbial ball. Even Paffett's been left behind.

Audi look relatively OK performance-wise, but seemingly not enough to trouble BMW's early advance. A lot of head scratching to be done in Stuttgart and Ingolstadt that's for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:20 pm

Mercedes-Benz seems to have unusually lacklustre drivers, apart from Paffett and perhaps Wickens. I believe that losing Spengler hurt HWA; one only needs to look Spengler’s performance at Schnitzer to see what an asset Spengler is.

It is difficult to ascertain the loss of Jamie Green at Mercedes. Green was spectacular at Norisring, but wasn’t particularly consistent. In his early years, he was notorious for gaining pole, but failing to convert poles to wins.

Audi has dropped the ball since DTM reverted back to coupes. Some Audi drivers manage to qualify well, but they eventually loose pace over a long run compared to the BMW cars.

It is a great surprise that BMW is so fast. Prior to 2012, BMW’s only experience of DTM was building a production-based E30 with a 4 cylinder engine, and minimal aero about 20 years ago. Back then, DTM cars were not that different to BTCC cars.

Audi and Mercedes have been building this current kind of DTM car since 2000, with the high aero levels, carbon tub etc. Yet BMW Motorsport has built an engine, chassis and aerodynamics to beat both marques. It’s not like they had the prior experience to build on.

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:31 am

decent race. not sure how many drivers like the track....

Mortara not great move. that could cost paffett....

The Blue flag is just the most stupidest rule ever!jocolor 
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:52 am

It is a real shame to see Ekstrom lose his win. Ekstrom has been invisible for too long, and today was like seeing the old Ekstrom who used to win regularly.

It is bizzare, yet understandable about his disqualification. Having a water bottle is such a minor thing, but rules are rules.

Mortara drove very stupidly. First Mortara tried to run Paffett off the track when coming out of the pits, then Mortara rear-ended Paffett into turn 1…then he rammed Paffett again out of the final turn.

Paffett should deliberately crash into Mortara for payback.

The stewards must have been high on drugs to peanlise Paffett. Yeah, peanlise the guy who got hit twice and also got forced off the track. Yeah, genius officiating.


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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:59 pm

decent race at moscow although not sure if they used the right layout.

DTM continue to get stupid jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:10 pm

The Moscow Raceway is a nice layout, but it doesn’t really work for overtaking. The middle sector is far too fiddly and follow-the-leader. I would make the first turn tighter to make it a bigger braking zone.

If the middle sector could be cut out, and the track was to run from the first two turns and cut back onto the long back straight, it would be a much better circuit.

It doesn’t help that overtaking is still extremely difficult in DTM. Time to ditch the excess aero and carbon brakes.

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PostSubject: Re: DTM 2013, all things related    Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:21 am

The DTM race at the Nurburgring was superb – one of the best races of the year.

It started to rain heavily as the lights were about to go out, but the cars were on slicks. Chaos was the result in the first few turns.

Tip off the hat to Mike Rockenfeller. He was spun around in turn 1 and was 21st, he went to wet tyres very quickly and gained a lot of time on drivers trundling around on slicks. 4th place was a great recovery drive.

Robert Wickens drove a brilliant race for Mercedes-Benz; his move on the outside of turn 2 was inspired. He passed two cars on the outside of the turn.

The Audi debrief would have been interesting, with Schneider getting punted by another Audi driver…

Today just reinforced what happens when excess downforce becomes redundant and grip is limited – there is great excitement.

Massively reduce the downforce, make the cars sturdier, put steel brakes and every race would be exciting.

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