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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:38 am

Iíve never seen a race that went from absolutely snoozingly dire to quite interesting. That was a pretty bizarre and scary crash between Newgarden and Bourdais. It sounded like Bourdais lost steering control; the way they connected was more akin to an oval pile up.

That new hairpin really was asking for trouble, in my opinion. It did improve passing, but its radius meant the slightest error resulted in turning someone around. The penalties are a bit tedious in IndyCar now, penalties should only be dished out for real bone head moves like Tagliani. Passing was difficult enough; they shouldnít be discouraging drivers from making a lunge.

Iím happy for Briscoe. A bit like Dixon, he seems to have poor luck but has been pretty quick all year. He deserved a break like that.
Sonoma could put inflatable Mr Bloobyís as chicanes; it still wouldnít make the racing exciting. Whatever they do, this track is just too twisty for IndyCarís. These cars need long straightaways and heavy breaking for regular passing Ė Sonoma has neither.

The only four wheeled racing that works at Sonoma is NASCAR, they have bumpers and fenders to make things interesting.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:39 am

As for the championship, street races can get a little congested and Fontana is a complete unknown. Itís been a long time since IndyCar ran on a D-shaped oval, and raced 500 miles outside of Indianapolis. If Power wrecks somehow at Fontana, RHR could be right thereÖ

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:20 pm

The championships going to go to power with out a doubt now.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:59 am

The only way I see Power not winning the championship is a wreck, engine failure or screwed pit strategy in Baltimore. Then that would leave Fontana, a complete unknown and perhaps not a strong type of circuit for Power.

Power has clearly been dominant on the road course, and he deserves praise for that. However, if IndyCar had a proper schedule, with a balance between road/oval circuits, the championship would be a lot more open then it is.

Next yearís schedule will go back to having more ovals, which Iím glad about. I feel that Power has gotten away with his poor performance on ovals, just because there has been so few of them. There is a skill to running the ovals, especially with the DW12. This season, heís gotten away with being poor on the ovals.


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:55 am

For anybody intending to watch the Baltimore round on Sky Sports, you have to press the red button on Sky Sports 4 (Sky Digi 404) to view the race from 19:30. You know Sky, their other drivel is just so important compared to motor racing. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:11 am

could had indy car on 2 or 4 i mean. super league or golf come on.

see if i can catch hightlights at some point no access to red button. probably watch US Open.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:33 am

I thought they would just show it on Sky Sports F1; nothing on live at that time. They had planned to show St Petersberg on 408, so there is precedence.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:43 am

One of the wildest IndyCar races in a while. Those drivers who were on slick tyres in the wet on those restarts had big cojones.
I love Will Powerís bitching; Penske did look like sore losers after that.

Hunter-Reay played everything right, from the strategy, tyres and those restarts. Not sure what Briscoe is bitching about, RHR accelerated between the cones and when the green flag flew. Itís funny how the wingers suddenly invent new restart rules.

Now now, Fontana is going to be absolutely thrillingÖ

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:40 am

Managed to miss this race, maybe I can catch it tomorrow on a repeat. Good luck to RHR in the final.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:49 am

I cannot wait for this weekendís title decider. Címon Hunter-Reay!!!

It will be interesting to see the DW12 on a D-shaped, relatively flat oval (well, compared to Texas anyway). At Texas the cars were ultra-loose with the high banking, with less banking at Fontana it could be a test of survival.


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:51 am

Mobil 1 wrote:
I cannot wait for this weekendís title decider. Címon Hunter-Reay!!!

It will be interesting to see the DW12 on a D-shaped, relatively flat oval (well, compared to Texas anyway). At Texas the cars were ultra-loose with the high banking, with less banking at Fontana it could be a test of survival.


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:44 am

It would be terrible if Will Power won the title. IndyCar is supposed to be about performing on the road course and the oval. Hunter-Reay has proven he win at every type of facility that IndyCar races at.

Will Power is amazing on the road courses, but heís a road ringer. This isnít a road course series, and in my opinion, it would be wrong to be weak on ovals and manage to win the title.

There is another reality too, unless its Helio, IndyCar will have an uphill battle at promoting an Australian as their champion. RHR as 2012 Champ would be a win-win for all...unless you're Australian! Razz

If Fontana is exciting, I say IndyCar returns to Michigan International Speedway in the future.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:01 am

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It would be terrible if Will Power won the title. IndyCar is supposed to be about performing on the road course and the oval. Hunter-Reay has proven he win at every type of facility that IndyCar races at.

Will Power is amazing on the road courses, but heís a road ringer. This isnít a road course series, and in my opinion, it would be wrong to be weak on ovals and manage to win the title.

There is another reality too, unless its Helio, IndyCar will have an uphill battle at promoting an Australian as their champion. RHR as 2012 Champ would be a win-win for all...unless you're Australian! Razz

If Fontana is exciting, I say IndyCar returns to Michigan International Speedway in the future.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:14 am

Mike Conway has been released from the 14 car as he doesn't feel comfortable on ovals. Wade Cunningham takes his place.

Hunter-Reay crashed in testing at Fontana, oh well, better to crash in testing than the race! Judging by the number of crashes already in testing/practice, tomorrow night might be a test of survival...with a championship on the line.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:28 am

lots of grid penalties floating around as well
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Yeah a lot of teams have chosen to take fresh engines, even with the penalty. Especially for the title contenders, using existing engines on a race this long and demanding, it would be an unnecessary risk.

Starting positions wonít matter a bit, itís a long race and the balance over a long run will be far more important. As Texas showed, winning the pole didnít matter a jot if the car starts getting loose in the race. Franchitti started on the pole at TMS, but ended up two laps down by the end.

I sense a tense night of racing.


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:41 pm

Not matter who wins I want this to be a safe race.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:57 pm

With the skinny wings they now run on superspeedways, pack racing is now impossible. Even in qualifying on new tyres they couldnít run wide open in the turns. There will be a decent field spread as the tyres wear out.

Plus, the DW12 drafts terrifically well, which creates separation. The old car never drafted that well, making the pack racing even more of a problem.

This year's Texas race and the Indianapolis 500 were how fast oval racing always should have been.

Its a shame that DW12's in superspeedway spec barley make 550 BHP, but the low downforce/heavy tyre wear balances that out.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:17 pm

Yeah, all that stuff should make it safer, but things can always go wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:37 am

There is a big unknown with this track; IndyCar hasnít run at a d-shaped oval with this banking and width since 2007, and with the DW12. However, because Fontana is so wide, hopefully it means that drivers donít get bottled up. Plus, ACS isnít highly banked either Ė always a plus for IndyCarís.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:35 am

I donít there has been a more nerve-wrecking race than that.

Congratulations to Hunter-Reay on an amazing championship victory.

The race was thrilling all the way through; this superspeedway aero package is a winner. Indy, Texas and now Fontana were all brilliant races. At last, the drivers are in control at these fast ovals.

Carpenter drove a super race, too. If there was an award for bravery, he would win it.

Iím so glad Sato didnít take out Hunter-Reay, I didnít care if Sato wrecked as long as he didnít take out RHR!

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:09 am

bit gutted for power, every final race. its get away from him.

good For RHR.

Sato.........what can you say. bins it most times than he can keeps on the road. didn't help him getting a drive next.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 IndyCar race thread   Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:53 am

Powerís wreck was like an Indianapolis 500 reply with how he almost collected RHR.

Power got loose very early in the turn, the balance shift is like lightening when the rear even slightly steps out Ė full respect to all the drivers.

I thought Sato drove a good race until the last lap, he just needs to seal the deal and remain consistent.

Hunter-Reay is a thoroughly deserving champion, heís won at every type of circuit this year. Just like with Franchitti, he can be competitive at any track, whereas Power is still dodgy on ovals.

There is a huge skill to driving different types of ovals, especially with the low downforce. It would have been wrong for Power to be champion without mastering an oval.

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