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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:09 am

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i think week nights in general could be very good for motorsport.

Something like BTCC live on a Tuesday evening could get a pretty big crowd in. There is far too much motorsport on a sunday, so most of it gets ignored

I agree, last night at Daytona all the grandstands and infields were full. It could be argued that weekday evenings are more prime-time than weekend afternoons, TV ratings are always higher in weekday evenings.

There is a problem in Europe of so much racing, that a lot of fans miss out on something. That hurts more vulnerable championships that need decent TV viewership and crowds.

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Think the whole weekend could be summed up in one word: crazy.

Absolutely, I’d extend that statement to the whole week. Jeff Gordon went upside down in the Shootout, with endless wrecks. A rookie wins the Trucks race, with a crash to the start/finish line – same thing happened a day later in the Nationwide Race. The Daytona 500 was delayed, when it was run, there was more mayhem and a car crashes into a jet dryer. Certainly no ordinary week of racing.

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Danica did pretty well steering through the two spinning cars out on the grass/infield. hopefully she will have a bit of luck soon & get a break & finish a few races to get the confidence back up, three races in & the crashes, all of which were not her fault.

I think the most expectation on Danica will be in the Nationwide Series. She’s running for the championship and will need to be consistent week in, week out. In the Cup Series, nobody can expect her to be particularly competitive. She hasn’t driven a Cup car on a normal downforce track, for starters.

Jimmie Johnson had one of the worst accidents of the whole week, he got hit directly in the left hand door.

I like how David Regan said Elliot Sadler drove like a “bonehead” in the 500, David Regan giving driving tips to others – really??? Maybe we should replay all the cars he’s torn up that got him dumped from Roush…

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:40 am

Jimmie Johnson’s crew chief Chad Kanus has been suspended for six races for using unapproved parts:

http://www.nascar.com/news/120229/jjohnson-cknaus-penalties/index.html

Oh, poor Jimmie Johnson. How will Jimmie cope without his bum chum Chad stuck up his arse? I better get the Kleenex out.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:04 am

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Jimmie Johnson’s crew chief Chad Kanus has been suspended for six races for using unapproved parts:

http://www.nascar.com/news/120229/jjohnson-cknaus-penalties/index.html

Oh, poor Jimmie Johnson. How will Jimmie cope without his bum chum Chad stuck up his arse? I better get the Kleenex out.

HAHAHAHA!!!!

last time that happened he went on a winning streak
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:16 am

Wouldn’t exactly call it a winning streak, in 06 Kanus was only banned from the Daytona 500 and that year they narrowly won the championship.

Chad and Jimmie went downhill last year; only two wins (and Talladega is a lottery) with many mistakes and errors from both.

It's crap that Jeff Gordon got docked points, its really a Hendrick car but Jeff owns it.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:01 am

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-penske-racing-stuns-nascar-with-move-to-ford?3%2F1
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:28 am

That is surprising; the Dodge engines in Nationwide and Cup have been very competitive and reliable. I guess Chrysler is a bit of a loaner though, because Robby Gordon’s team is the only other one that runs Dodge motors. Sharing data/expertise with other teams is seen as an advantage, and Penske cannot do that with Dodge.

I wonder if Penske will get their Ford motors from Roush, or develop their own Ford motor and only get the block from Roush. Gibbs shut down its engine operation and gets its motors from Toyota Development Racing, maybe Penske are going the same way.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:38 am

It'll be the same car (with different stickers) and the same engine (with dodge scrubbed out and ford written in crayon on top)
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:54 am

No it isn’t, all the engines are developed by respective manufacturers, and tuned in-house by some teams like Hendrick and Penske. The updated spec of car is coming next year, with each manufacturer running different kits. I won’t pretend that there is much difference, but the subtleties are what make the difference.

It’s Phoenix this weekend, Nationwide (live on Motors TV) on Saturday and Cup on Sunday. This is a great track with the dog leg; it’s a short, flat oval with plenty of heavy braking into the turns. Way more driver input than a plate track.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:31 am

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/nascar-star-helps-solve-hit-run-killing-161606452.html
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:16 am

Nice story there. The 42 car of Montoya seems really fast this weekend at Phoenix, let's hope JPM can qualify the Target Chevrolet near the front today for good track position and a good pit stall.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:26 am

the Nationwide series is on Motors TV live Smile

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:32 pm

That was a pretty good race; it was weird to see some drivers still using the apron in the dog leg to gain an advantage. Elliot Sadler drove brilliantly there at the end, one mistake by Sadler and Keselowski would have got past.

Yesterday was back to reality for Danica and her steep-learning curve, at such a driver-dependent track she drove okay. Two laps down in 21st position but Patrick at least kept the car out of the wall, which cannot be said for some.

The main Cup race is later on today, should be a great race, Montoya qualified in the top five at Phoanix. Track position is pretty important because the inside groove is still beneficial at early stages of the race, with the repaving.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:26 am

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That was a pretty good race; it was weird to see some drivers still using the apron in the dog leg to gain an advantage. Elliot Sadler drove brilliantly there at the end, one mistake by Sadler and Keselowski would have got past.

Yesterday was back to reality for Danica and her steep-learning curve, at such a driver-dependent track she drove okay. Two laps down in 21st position but Patrick at least kept the car out of the wall, which cannot be said for some.

The main Cup race is later on today, should be a great race, Montoya qualified in the top five at Phoanix. Track position is pretty important because the inside groove is still beneficial at early stages of the race, with the repaving.

btw that was Mrs Hospitals 31st nationwide race, after 30 races thats the best she can do?

Where is all this crap coming from, she's a bit below average (as a racing driver) and yet gets more coverage than the champions. Something is very wrong here.

I'm still hopeing for Montoya to win a cup race, but it's been to long really he should have won on an oval by now, with his talent.
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:09 am

I was surprised to hear that cerca, she’s done limited Nationwide schedules for the past two years, but I didn’t realise it was her 31st start. Yesterday was Patrick’s third race at Phoenix, she drove in both events last year. For some context, Cole Whitt is Danica’s teammate and he finished 13th – plus he’s a rookie. He finished on the lead lap too, not two laps down.

I’ve always, always stated that the media attention on Danica does not reflect her talent. People moaned in 2007 when Hamilton got loads of press coverage, well that’s because he’s a superb racing driver, F1 Champ and a regular F1 race winner. Danica has still only won a single IndyCar race, which was fuel mileage.

Track’s like Phoanix, Las Vegas and Bristol require a lot of finesse and driver input. Imo, those are aspects that Patrick lacks. On IndyCar road courses she struggled because they required finesse and throttle control, almost all NASCAR track's require that same input, because the cars are so powerful, heavy and don’t have much grip.

The media can only hype Danica so far, because she’s driving for a great team and a great crew chief. The excuses can only run so far.

Regarding Montoya, NASCAR drivers are dependent on a good crew chief to tweak the set up of the car to changing track conditions. JPM hasn’t always had a crew chief that can make the right changes at the end of races. Sometimes he’s run up front all day, only to lose the lead at the end because of a fading car. His new crew chief has a lot better credentials, he comes from Hendrick. JPM was really fast in practice and qualified very well – that hasn’t happened in a while.


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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:03 am

Like this quote from Patrick:

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“I just get along better with the more banked, grippy tracks,”

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/nns-danica-patrick-puts-rough-nascar-start-in-rear-view/

Oh, I see, so you don’t like the difficult track’s, you’re just interested in the easiest tracks. Hmm, what a driver . I’ll eat my hair if she ever wins at a short track or a road course in NASCAR, saying that, I doubt she’ll even win at a 1.5 mile track. Maybe she’ll win a crapshoot at Daytona or Talladega, I’ll say this: the talent level of NASCAR is simply too much for Danica. Sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:27 am

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Like this quote from Patrick:

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“I just get along better with the more banked, grippy tracks,”

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/nns-danica-patrick-puts-rough-nascar-start-in-rear-view/

Oh, I see, so you don’t like the difficult track’s, you’re just interested in the easiest tracks. Hmm, what a driver . I’ll eat my hair if she ever wins at a short track or a road course in NASCAR, saying that, I doubt she’ll even win at a 1.5 mile track. Maybe she’ll win a crapshoot at Daytona or Talladega, I’ll say this: the talent level of NASCAR is simply too much for Danica. Sorry.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ten

danica is a below average driver in indycar and bit lower yet again in nascar. The only thing about here thats outstanding or great is her publicity
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:27 am

Brian Vickers has been chosen to drive the 55 Toyota Camry at both events at Martinsville, New Hampshire and Bristol for Michael Waltrip Racing: http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-waltrip-picks-vickers-for-no-55-toyota/

Wow, if Vickers drove anything like last year, then the 42 other competitors need to watch that car in the mirror in case they get wrecked.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:08 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/story/2012-03-09/Danica-Patrick-feels-drain-of-emotion-in-Las-Vegas/53445812/1

danica regretting the move already. She's just not good enough. End.
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:02 am

Wow, she expected to win the Nationwide championship. With drivers like Stenhouse and Sadler – I think not.

Few can go straight into NASCAR and expect to be competitive; she’s a very average driver at best. Drivers like Baldwin and Kvapil in underfunded teams are much better drivers than Danica, and they finish 30th every week. Danica has to prove she’s better than the rear end of the NASCAR grid before we even talk about consistent top-15 finishes.

This is why the media coverage has been borderline dangerous; the US media hype her so badly that normal folk expect her to be right up there. The reality is vastly different.

Danica was dire in IndyCar, but those cars suited her better because she didn’t need as much finesse and control. In these big, heavy, lazy and very powerful stock cars – it doesn’t suit her driving capabilities.

BTW, Its Nationwide and Cup racing at Las Vegas Motor Speedway this weekend. The Nationwide race is later at 10 pm.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:00 am

i am quite surprised danica thought she would win the title stright off.

there is alot media hype around her, i do think she is good for racing series. she is canny nice like so Wink

I think she can do ok in a series if she gets out the mind set she is the best in the world and learns the series.
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:11 am

NASCAR loves Danica, they get all these new clueless American’s watching NASCAR because of a certain female that the media keep on talking about. NASCAR is already so popular, but the potential for a new female, Danica-mania audience is huge.

Got the Cup race at Las Vegas Motor Speedway today, gambling city for a gambling race.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:44 am

one thing the race that was on tonight. on lap 77 lots of people tweeted #RIPDan77 was trending in USA. He is still missed so much.
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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:40 am

^^^ Being the first major race weekend since that IndyCar fatality, turn 2 looked a little spookier this weekend.

The last quarter of that race was superb; some drivers just didn’t get going on those restarts. I have no idea what Tony Stewart does on restarts, but he manages to leave all the others trailing. Even when Tony couldn’t control the speed by starting first, he went to the apron, made it three-wide and got the lead. Whilst in the lead, I think he waits until they spin their rear tyres, then he stabs the throttle.

I’m soooo glad that Stewart held off Jimmie Johnson, the last thing we want is vanilla Johnson winning.

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PostSubject: Re: NASCAR 2012   Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:03 am

Bristol Motor Speedway officials are willing to make changes to the half mile track to make the racing rougher:

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-owner-bruton-smith-considers-changes-to-bristol-motor-speedway/

Have to say, I agree with the majority of fans – 70 % of who want the old Bristol racing back (SMI surveyed fans). If people want to see tracks with a fast outside groove and progressive banking, they should go to Michigan or Texas. Short track racing is about everyone squabbling for the bottom lane, and drivers fighting for that bottom line – and putting the bumper to drivers who are in the way.

Bristol, Martinsville, Richmond and New Hampshire are loved for a reason: their unique racing with payback and hot tempered driving. The drivers try and out-brake each other into corners, and need finesse. That’s my kind of racing.

It’s silly to try and turn everything into a 1.5 mile style of racing. With the current Bristol, unless you’re in the high groove – you cannot pass. So passing isn’t necessarily easier anyway, which was the whole point of adding progressive banking.

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