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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:18 am

Don't get me wrong I do like what Davidson can do, but Sarrazin is something special and you could always guarrantee that the car he was in was on P1 usually

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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:28 am

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Don't get me wrong I do like what Davidson can do, but Sarrazin is something special and you could always guarrantee that the car he was in was on P1 usually

Sarrazin is complete driver quick and easily knocks out the laps.

Davidson is a quick but his drives at le mans 2010 and 2011 proved he isn't quite up to sports car yet......doing that move on corvette in 2010 and say what he said after......2011 when he was laps down blocking the lead Audi....
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 pm

http://www.facebook.com/strakka.racing

look closely at the fin, is that transparent?
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:38 am

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look closely at the fin, is that transparent?

If it was transparent it would be invisible. Razz

Think it's just the reflection of the endplate and wing support.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:26 am

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cerca trova wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/strakka.racing

look closely at the fin, is that transparent?

If it was transparent it would be invisible. Razz

Think it's just the reflection of the endplate and wing support.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:17 pm

there is another picture where you can see the Armco barrier through the fin

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=338022662907188&set=a.338021912907263.73227.100000983716540&type=1&theater

to be honest the fin is just very ugly and if it's sort of see through it's a nice idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 am

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there is another picture where you can see the Armco barrier through the fin

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=338022662907188&set=a.338021912907263.73227.100000983716540&type=1&theater

to be honest the fin is just very ugly and if it's sort of see through it's a nice idea.

Still a reflection. The bit of Armco on the fin doesn't match the barrier behind the car.

Here's another pic of it from another angle. You can see the reflection of the rear wing on the fin.



As you say though, would be a nice idea if it was translucent.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:20 am

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cerca trova wrote:
there is another picture where you can see the Armco barrier through the fin

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=338022662907188&set=a.338021912907263.73227.100000983716540&type=1&theater

to be honest the fin is just very ugly and if it's sort of see through it's a nice idea.

Still a reflection. The bit of Armco on the fin doesn't match the barrier behind the car.

Here's another pic of it from another angle. You can see the reflection of the rear wing on the fin.



As you say though, would be a nice idea if it was translucent.

translucent was the word I wanted thank you
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:54 am

That's rather ugly, a mess. There is little coherence in the design.

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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:05 pm

the fia mandated ugly bits don't help

that fin is hideous and the holes above each wheel look even worse. As do the bigger (again mandated) mirrors.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:53 am

This car is slight different to the muscle milk car
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:49 am

http://www.grandprix.com/columns/maurice-hamilton/me-and-my-boy.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=grandprixdotcom

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Martin Brundle has described the Le Mans 24 Hours as 'unquestionably, in motor sport, the greatest show on earth'.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:08 am

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-9694.html

audi r18 e-tron quattro
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:43 am

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:45 am

Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:53 am

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC

http://www.joest-racing.de/web/news/news.php?id=654&sprache=e
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:10 am

Lotus's new stealth fighter

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97768
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:00 am

Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC

http://www.joest-racing.de/web/news/news.php?id=654&sprache=e

Wow, it really doesn’t get any worse than that. Traction control and four wheel drive - boooooooooo

Nobody better complain about F1 cars having too much grip, I’ll just refer to this prototype and the daddy of all traction – 4WD and traction control.

A car with almost limitless levels of grip (for the best drivers) and tractor diesel – wow.

Do the drivers need brake assist as well, or can they manage to press a brake pedal?

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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:32 am

Mobil 1 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC

http://www.joest-racing.de/web/news/news.php?id=654&sprache=e

Wow, it really doesn’t get any worse than that. Traction control and four wheel drive - boooooooooo

Nobody better complain about F1 cars having too much grip, I’ll just refer to this prototype and the daddy of all traction – 4WD and traction control.

A car with almost limitless levels of grip (for the best drivers) and tractor diesel – wow.

Do the drivers need brake assist as well, or can they manage to press a brake pedal?

i agree

f1 cars have too much (downforce) grip (and so do LMP1's & lmp2's and lmgt's)
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:36 am

actually so does gp2, indycar, nascar, s2000 touring cars, dtm, gt3 and so on, all of them have too much wing generated downforce. IIf the downforce is generate through the tyres or through under body "wings" thats fine. But standard wings are very bad for racing.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:27 am

cerca trova wrote:
Mobil 1 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC

http://www.joest-racing.de/web/news/news.php?id=654&sprache=e

Wow, it really doesn’t get any worse than that. Traction control and four wheel drive - boooooooooo

Nobody better complain about F1 cars having too much grip, I’ll just refer to this prototype and the daddy of all traction – 4WD and traction control.

A car with almost limitless levels of grip (for the best drivers) and tractor diesel – wow.

Do the drivers need brake assist as well, or can they manage to press a brake pedal?

i agree

f1 cars have too much (downforce) grip (and so do LMP1's & lmp2's and lmgt's)

Downforce is one thing, which I agree with you, but having 4WD is something completely different. Any series that allows 4WD and traction control sucks.

NASCAR cars don’t have too much grip, the drivers are sliding frequently. It has a recipe that works brilliantly: no wings, 900 bhp and a heavy body.

All other motorsports have too much grip though. GTE is a missed opportunity; some of them have less horsepower than their road car counterparts – that’s ridiculous.


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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:17 am

Mobil 1 wrote:
cerca trova wrote:
Mobil 1 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
Cornish Pirate 7 wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739

The new AUDI

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewArticle.cfm?articleUID=CAB39AA9-1143-FDC9-35154352F2FA428D&custUID=74897E3C-1143-FDC9-3550A12A51C8E15C&_sessionID=YEKCFABHJA&_subSessionID=YGKVTHGGBC

http://www.joest-racing.de/web/news/news.php?id=654&sprache=e

Wow, it really doesn’t get any worse than that. Traction control and four wheel drive - boooooooooo

Nobody better complain about F1 cars having too much grip, I’ll just refer to this prototype and the daddy of all traction – 4WD and traction control.

A car with almost limitless levels of grip (for the best drivers) and tractor diesel – wow.

Do the drivers need brake assist as well, or can they manage to press a brake pedal?

i agree

f1 cars have too much (downforce) grip (and so do LMP1's & lmp2's and lmgt's)

Downforce is one thing, which I agree with you, but having 4WD is something completely different. That virtually prevents all wheelspin in low-speed corners, combined with traction control – they will be boring to watch. Any series that allows 4WD and traction control sucks.

NASCAR cars don’t have too much grip, the drivers are sliding frequently. It has a recipe that works brilliantly: no wings, 900 bhp and a heavy body.

All other motorsports have too much grip though. GTE is a missed opportunity; some of them have less horsepower than their road car counterparts – that’s ridiculous.


they would be impossible to overtake if they weren't restricted, but again get rid of the downforce and running all there power would be fine

the audi isn't 4 wheel drive, they can't use both at the same time and the kers is limited to below 120kph (I think)
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:05 am

I understand that, but it is 4WD at certain speeds, hence the tag "Quattro".

From the horse's mouth:

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Audi unites two technologies in a fascinating way to create a new type of drive, which is also already being tested for future use in production cars: e-tron quattro.

Hiding behind this description is the next generation four-wheel drive with which Audi combines the advantages of the proven quattro drive with the potential of electromobility. To this end one vehicle axle is powered conventionally, the second by electric motors.

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The R18 e-tron, which will also race in the new FIA World Endurance Championship, becomes a four-wheel-drive car within certain limits laid down in the Le Mans rulebook.

Sorry, 4WD on a circuit car is completely unacceptable. The cars already have traction control, yawn. I think traction control and 4WD take this concept of "road relevance" too far, this is motor racing where the drivers are supposed to work hard at controlling the car. As I said, they may as well allow cornering assist, ABS and brake assist whilst there at it.


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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:15 am

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I understand that, but it is 4WD at certain speeds, hence the tag "Quattro".

From the horse's mouth:

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Audi unites two technologies in a fascinating way to create a new type of drive, which is also already being tested for future use in production cars: e-tron quattro.

Hiding behind this description is the next generation four-wheel drive with which Audi combines the advantages of the proven quattro drive with the potential of electromobility. To this end one vehicle axle is powered conventionally, the second by electric motors.

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The R18 e-tron, which will also race in the new FIA World Endurance Championship, becomes a four-wheel-drive car within certain limits laid down in the Le Mans rulebook.

Sorry, 4WD on a circuit car is completely unacceptable. The cars already have traction control, yawn. I think traction control and 4WD take this concept of "road relevance" too far, this is motor racing where the drivers are supposed to work hard at controlling the car. As I said, they may as well allow cornering assist, ABS and brake assist whilst there at it.


I must of miss herd, I agree with you, i'd like to see traction control (and stability controls) banned completely from motorsport and the road tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: Le Mans 2012   Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:35 am

I don't blame you because the press release's haven't been very clear at what speed its 4WD. "Quattro" is the biggest giveaway though.

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