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PostSubject: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:23 am

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=2031&month=0&year=2008&form=&searchterm=

Gawd, the car is ugly. A Mazda 6 or Mondeo would have been a lot better!! (yeah, i know they're basically the same car!)
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:36 am

It manages to be ugly and bland at the same time.

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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:16 am

GOD how dull is that car Laughing bloody hell it'll look better when its racing and Matt Neal smashes it up Laughing least it won't be so boring to look at and all its missinge have is an Advance Booking Only taxi sticker on side like we have in Leeds Laughing
Like this see on door Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:59 am

Give it to Alex MacDowell and he can do the same as he did his Chevy at Croft in race 2
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:00 am

boyhitscarpimp wrote:
Give it to Alex MacDowell and he can do the same as he did his Chevy at Croft in race 2

lol! lol! lol! Well can't make it look worse could it
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:46 am

Anyone seen the new artist impressions for the Avensis.

Have to say I can't wait to see it. I still think Touring cars should be just that, Not hatchbacks but full on Saloons like the the Cruze, Vectra, Bmw's, Even the intregas.

It makes it debut at Brands hatch at the end of the season.

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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:12 am

I think bmw's might be tricky, if front wheel drive only iirc

Allan Gow Does Hate rear wheel drive
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:58 am

Hatchbacks have generally had a tough time in touring cars; the more aerodynamic drag due to the dirty air not being dispensed of like in a saloon and the shorter front/rear track make them less stable in medium to high speed corners.

I think it is a shame that RWD will more or less be outlawed for 2011, since the 320si arrived in BTCC the differences between both FWD and RWD drivetrain's has been very interesting to watch. No one drivetrain has dominated, which has made things even more interesting.

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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:32 pm

The BMW's have struggled somewhat this year, i guess from the WSR perspective, that's a budget thing and no Colin Turkington. Andy Neate should be doing better than racing John George and Martin Johnson! Collard has had some good races. but also been caught up in too many incidents.
The S2000 cars still have a couple years left yet, its the BTC spec 'old' cars from the beginning of 2001 that we lose for next year, meaning we lose about 6 cars, with the exception of Paul O'Neill, all cars propping up the grid. Techspeed and Paul are trying to persuade Alan Gow to allow the cars for next year, as they can't afford to replace their Integra's. I know Martin Johnson won't be back next year if he can't run the Astra as he has no more money to buy a replacement.
We'll likely be having grids of 10-15 cars next year i guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:49 am

I worry for BTCC, there doesn't seem to be many new teams joining and as you say with the BTC cars being dropped - that will eliminate some cars. They had better hope that this NASCAR style car of tomorrow attracts new teams.

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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:00 am

where are these new teams coming from though.

it's not renault clio
it's not single seaters (as teams in f3, gp3 and gp2) make a forture from pay drivers
gt's don't think so
new teams, well wears the money for that, would they be there already?

If the cars are cheap enough to build maybe (or buy)

otherwise it's the likes of team Dynamics or the chilton family bulding these things.
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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:04 am

I don't know the precise details of the regulations, but I think there will be a stock engine, chassis and other parts that can be purchased from a third party contractor for a supposedly cheap price.


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PostSubject: Re: Avensis is NGTC prototype   Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:34 pm

The TOCA engine is pretty cheap compared to existing S2000 engines, but that's not much help if you cant afford a chassis to put it in. S2000 chassis are still way too expensive for the privateers.
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