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Who will win this Chinese Grand Prix?
Sebastian Vettel
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Fernando Alonso
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Jenson Button
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Lewis Hamilton
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Felipe Massa
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Mark Webber
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Nico Rosberg
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Michael Schumacher
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Robert Kubica
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PostSubject: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:34 pm

2010 FORMULA 1 CHINESE GRAND PRIX

Formula 1 remains in Asia this weekend, in the Chinese city of Shanghai for the 2010 Formula 1 Chinese Grand Prix at the Shanghai International Circuit. The Chinese Grand Prix marks the fourth round of the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship. We have six drivers at the top of the standings covered by less then ten points in the drivers championship, the dual will once again be scintillating in China.






China is one of the world’s largest economies in the world and is rapidly growing as a country, this means that Formula One can not afford to not have a Grand Prix in China – it is a very lucrative market for the sport. With businesses such as the Bank of China, Sinopec and Aigo all having sponsored F1 teams - teams have greatly benefited from the commercial revenue that Chinese businesses have given to teams. In terms of TV viewership, China is only behind Europe in terms of how many Chinese people watch the races. In general, the business opportunities and public interest that China has in F1 are key factors in China having a place in the calendar.

The Shanghai International circuit cost a staggering $450 million to build, it is a state of the art facility that can match the standards of the very best circuits on the calendar. The construction of the circuit was funded by respective governments in China to host an F1 Grand Prix. China hosted its first F1 race in 2004. The track has also hosted Moto GP races, a V8 Supercar race, GP2 Asia races and A1GP races – as China opens its doors to international motor racing.

Overtaking opportunities

The Shanghai International Circuit is not only one of the less interesting layouts on the calendar, it has very few passing opportunities in the dry.

Turn 1 is a passing opportunity, especially in the opening laps. Drivers often get turn 16 wrong and run wide, which can lead opponents to go side-by-side along the pit straight and do a dandier move into turn 1 which has a very fast entry to it. Turn 6 is a possible passing opportunity, but unless somebody gets the exit of turn 4 wrong – the straight between both turns is usually not long enough for drivers to slipstream there rivals and pass their rivals in this turn. The circuit really mainly consists of continuous series of twists and turns, which means that passing is hard at this track with limited opportunities for cars to slipstream each other and pass into big braking zones. Undoubtedly, the best passing opportunity comes at turn 14. The drivers will stay flat out on one of F1’s longest straights and reach approximately 195 mph before stamping on the brake pedal to just 45 mph. This is a massive braking zone with a wide entry that encourages passing, this is the most significant overtaking opportunity due to the opportunities for slipstreaming along the back straight and driers trying to out-brake each other into turn 14 – a major stop from high speeds. Moves at this corner have been pulled off countless times.

However, all of this is thrown out of the window with rain descending on the circuit. The 2006, 2007 and 2009 Chinese GP’s have all been rain-affected. If this occurs again for this year’s event, then every corner literally becomes a realistic overtaking opportunity – with huge variation in grip levels and each driver’s level of confidence in wet conditions. Not even the sheer downforce that F1 cars generate can affect the prospects for unpredictable and thrilling wet Grand’s Prix.

What to watch for

According to Bridgestone, the Shanghai track is very severe on rear tyres. As can be seen on the track guide, the circuit features many continuous tight and twisty corners with few full throttle sections in between. This means that teams run medium to high downforce levels at this track, so the cars have maximum traction when exiting these fiddly corners. Meaning less wheel-spin is caused by cars being more planted to the track, so cars exit corners as fast as possible for competitive lap times. But, in the cars being run in high downforce specifications, this only increases tyre wear because the tyres are digging into the tarmac more aggressively due to higher downforce levels run then at other tracks. This is particularly an issue for the rear tyres, because the power is transmitted to the rear wheels in F1 cars. So, drivers who are too aggressive and generate too much wheel-spin, especially carrying so much fuel may have to ease off and conserve their rear Bridgestone tyres or pit for new tyres.

If the race is dry, it will be interesting to see if some drivers just push too hard, too soon and have to either nurse their tyres until their scheduled pit stops. Or, whether they will make earlier pitstops. As we saw in Australia, not even the hard compound is particularly durable if a driver drives too aggressively for a whole stint.

Car requirements

The Shanghai track requires medium to high downforce levels, but this really depends on the relative downforce of each car. The cars with higher downforce levels may be able to sacrifice downforce, trimming the wings out to gain more speed on the long back straight. Because, cars such as the Red Bull machine produce staggering levels of downforce, so even if teams such as RBR do trim their cars out for more top speed, they can still rely on the high downforce levels of their cars to ensure that they are as stable in the tight corners. Teams such as Virgin may not have this luxury, because their cars do not have high downforce levels – and ensuring that their car is fast as possible through the tight turns will be of the highest priority for them.

Mechanical grip is very important as well, due to the track’s many slow speed turns. Because the track is so twisty, strain on engines and fuel consumption is very low here – due to the drivers being off throttle for much of the lap when negotiating the circuit’s slow, long and often frustrating corners. So, the thirstier and less reliable engines on the grid will not be under such strain here.

Tyre selections

Bridgestone will bring their soft and hard Potenza compounds to Chinese Grand Prix. As ever, both compounds must be used by all drivers in the race.

Video footage

Lets see a flying lap of this Shanghai circuit with Jarno Trulli in his Toyota TF108 driving during practice 2 of the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix, as described by the former Toyota driver:



Weekend schedule in UK time:

Fri 16 April 2010

Friday Practice 1 03:00 – 04:30
Friday Practice 2 07:30 – 08:30

Sat 17 April 2010

Saturday Practice 04:00 - 05:00
Qualifying 07:00

Sun 18 April 2010

Start of formation lap 08:00
Chinese Grand Prix race start 08:03

Where to watch – GMT time

-Free practice 1 live: 03:00am – 04:30am BBC via Red Button / online
-Free practice 2 live: 07:00am – 08:30am BBC via Red Button / online
- Free practice 3 live: 04:00am – 05:00am BBC via Red Button / online
- Qualifying coverage live: 06:00am – 08:30am BBC One / online
- Chinese Grand Prix live: 07:00am – 10:15am BBC One / online

*If you are watching the Grand Prix in Britain, after race day coverage has finished on BBC1, press the red button for the F1 Forum. When you’ve pressed the red button, there will be a link to follow for the F1 forum. Where the BBC F1 experts continue to have an in-depth discussion of the key moments in the motor race.

As always, live timing and scoring is available for every session at http://www.formula1.com/ Registration is free. If you wish to watch this Grand Prix outside the UK, please check your local listings.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:36 pm

Good preview as ever, i think all the teams will be praying for a dry weekend
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:53 pm

Cheers mate, personally, I want a completely dry weekend. It may seem 'boring', but, we haven't really seen a straight fight between all the teams since Bahrain. I want to see which cars are fastest in qualifying and race trim, and I don't want adverse weather to affect that.

I believe that the Mclaren-Mercedes is a very, very strong car. It was consistently fastest throughout the DRY practice sessions in Malaysia, both on short and long runs. So I look to Mclaren to take the fight to RBR. I doubt Red Bull already have an F-Duct, so Mclaren can continue to enjoy the straight line speed advantage that they have with that innovative wing.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:02 pm

I agree. RB + ferrari certainly seem alot more fragile than the Macca. I dont think anyone else will have a F-duct/vent/thing, certainly not till spain
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:07 pm

Indeed, Spain should be more interesting from a development point of view. RBR and Ferrari have to change their wing mirrors as well, it will be interesting to see what solutions both teams bring. They will probably vary ever so slightly for aero gains.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:06 pm

The ferrari has 5 finishes out of six and alonso only dnf'd because he had to use the over rev to try and get past, I've forgotten.

If Ferrari want to win anything this year they need to get massa out of alonso's way. Twice in 3 races massa has destroyed alonso race due to a lack of commitment and aggresion.
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:25 pm

Ferrari aren't as strong as they would like to be. The car seems quite fragile when in dirty air because it overheats, and as seen in Malaysia - the Ferrari unit is unreliable.

I have a counter argument for that. Alonso is undoubtedly faster then Massa for a race duration, and is better in general. But there are critical moments in GP's you have to nail right - or you can forget about your race. The main one is the start and the first lap, Massa has managed to get ahead of Alonso on lap 1 in Australia and Malaysia, despite starting behind him. So Massa deserves to be where he has been, it hasn't happened by magic - he has put himself in a position ahead of Alonso on both occasions.

It will be interesting to see how that driver pairing pans out as the season progresses.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:34 pm

Sav 2 wrote:
Ferrari aren't as strong as they would like to be. The car seems quite fragile when in dirty air because it overheats, and as seen in Malaysia - the Ferrari unit is unreliable.

I have a counter argument for that. Alonso is undoubtedly faster then Massa for a race duration, and is better in general. But there are critical moments in GP's you have to nail right - or you can forget about your race. The main one is the start and the first lap, Massa has managed to get ahead of Alonso on lap 1 in Australia and Malaysia, despite starting behind him. So Massa deserves to be where he has been, it hasn't happened by magic - he has put himself in a position ahead of Alonso ob both occasions.

It will be interesting to see how that driver pairing pans out as the season progresses.


ok I'll give you that. In Australia alonso was stunning during the recovery and overtaking.

Massa can start a race. He's very much a schumacher pupil.
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:38 pm

Oh of course, Alonso was amazing in Australia - but you wouldn't expect anything less would you? He is a great race car driver.

Massa is indeed a Schumacher pupil, he learnt an awful lot in 2006. Before, he was like Sato - a mess - but now look at him, he can mix it in with Alonso. I still reckon that Alonso is better then Massa, by quite a bit. Its all about Alonso getting in a position to utilise his superior speed - like the opening lap.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:53 pm

Mclaren-Mercedes will not bring an adjustable ride height feature to China: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82853

I swear the Red Bull has such a system, Vettel's car was skimming the ground in Australia in qualifying. Why would the car skim on the ground if it didn't have such a system? Afterwards, the cars are filled with fuel, there have been suggestions that they are using compressed gas to lower the ride height of their car for qualifyng and as the fuel burns off in the races Its probably a clever system that is somehow legal, like how the F-duct is.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:14 pm

Massa expects Mclaren to have massive advantage in Shanghai


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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:21 pm

Its really a win-win situation for Mclaren-Mercedes. They can run the downforce levels that they want to run, but will still be able to reach high speeds on the back straight. Where as others will have to either trim back downforce for higher speed, which would then make their cars slower in the turns. Or crank on maximum downforce - but then have less straight line speed for after turn 14.

We saw this in sector 2 at Sepang in the dry, Mclaren were very quick in the high speed corners by being able to still run their ideal downforce settings. But then have the best straight line speeds in the speed traps - its the best of both worlds.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:21 pm

Looks like Ferrari have their own duct ready for practice tomorrow

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:18 pm

i'm shocked an stunned by this.
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:21 pm

I'm not, suprised they have one before spain tho
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:17 am

It's not gone well for Buemi Shocked Laughing Laughing lol!
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:42 am

both wheels falling off Razz


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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:32 am

Strange incident that

was gonna watch the repeats of practice but my bbci isnt working Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:16 pm

Cor blimey, just seen Buemi's crash. I don't think I've ever seen a failure like that before, the front wheels just ripped clean off the car as he went to brake and other pieces also fell of the car. It was a bit like an explosion or something, five, four, three, two, one - boom!

Not sure if anybody watched P1, but a fan was momentarily in the possession of one of Buemi's wheels - until a marshal nabbed it off him. The other wheel only bounced over a cameraman: http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-lucky-escape-for-tv-cameraman/

Seems as if the usual teams; RBR, Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercedes are up near the front. Interesting to see yet another Ferrari engine blowing up.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 - 2010 CHINESE GRAND PRIX - SHANGHAI   Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:19 pm

Yeah i saw that in the aftermath. if that was me i would have run out of the circuit asap.

Ferrari certainly have issue's, Teflonso as ever not bothered by the sound of it Laughing
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