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PostSubject: AMR plans confirmed   Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:43 pm

drivers: Chris Buncombe, Stefan Mücke, Harold Primat, Darren Turner & Adrian Fernández

and they are planning to run sebring, long beach and HTTT and other major events after le mans.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:46 am

Whats the point? Its not like the car can hold a candle to the diesel prototypes, it was thrashed at every track last year when the factory diesels were around. I would just concentrate on the 2010 challenger and making that as kick ass as possible.

Maybe Fernandez is bank rolling the show?

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:44 am

i think Aston martin should or will be using it as test for 2011. Like the corvette did and GT2

long beach is a big surprise Shocked Good to see aston martin racing 2010 Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:33 am

They should be favorite for sebring surely
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:08 am

Are Peugeot doing Sebring? If not, then Aston have a genuine chance...

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:12 am

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:10 am

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Whats the point? Its not like the car can hold a candle to the diesel prototypes, it was thrashed at every track last year when the factory diesels were around. I would just concentrate on the 2010 challenger and making that as kick ass as possible.

Maybe Fernandez is bank rolling the show?

le mans is 24 hours there are zero garuntees.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:18 am

Of course, there are no guarantees in motor racing. But its highly unlikely that the Lola-Aston will be able to win, Peugeot's reliability is much better then it used to be, and Audi's R15 will surely be more reliable then last year. With that turbo diesel punch and bigger budgets, I don't see any petrol prototype getting close. I mean the Aston was easily 2 seconds a lap slower then the diesels, the Pug can just breeze by on the straights.

Its always possible, but its also highly unlikely. When the factory turbo diesel boys are in town, the petrol prototypes get f*****.

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:25 am

i wish they were all petrol, the aco has cut desels back again this year but the factory still have more money than the likes of prodrive aston martin.

at spa last year the aston was quicker in a straight line that the peugeots though.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:33 am

I would love that too, Audi used to make mega sounding petrol units. Sad

I am rather skeptical of the diesel cut backs, they get pegged back each year, yet they still breeze past other petrol cars with ease. Even biofuel would be ace, its ultra, ultra noisy - as seen in the Corvette.

Road relevance is great on the M40, but not on a race track. Hope Porsche come back with a petrol prototype and show people how its done...

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:18 am

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Of course, there are no guarantees in motor racing. But its highly unlikely that the Lola-Aston will be able to win, Peugeot's reliability is much better then it used to be

Peugeot has had crap reliability even though it will be a 4year old car. At sebring 09 it had problems one car retired with gearbox, 08 at sebring the car retired with problems with hydraulics le mans 09 and 08 problem with the number 08 car which is quite surprising since Peugeot does have quite large budget.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:33 am

Good points, put it this way, they run three cars, and its more then likely that a car will finish the race without mechanical gremlins - risk is spread. There are a number of isolated issues that Peugeot have had, but they are only isolated. The car was pretty reliable in 2009, and that was the current car.

I mean if one car has a transmission failure for example, there are another two cars to back it up. Audi had a real pisser when it mattered - at Le Mans. But even with that dire reliability, Audi still managed to finish ahead of Aston-Martin. Having a fast car like the diesels spreads your risk and means your fast car and big investment doesn't go to waste.

If you look at the history of three car teams, I doubt you will find many modern examples of where all three cars have retired. This is why Aston imo, have little chance. Anything can happen, but the last time that an underdog upstaged the major teams for overal victory was a long time ago, and with a car thats way off the pace and not been improved from 2009 - then its unlikely.

No factory diesels around - petrols have a chance
Factory diesels - little chance for petrol cars.

The time difference per lap is simply too much for the Astons, if the diesels run away at 2 seconds a lap, your looking at something pretty unexpected to happen. Nothing is impossible, but the liklihood of all three diesels from each team retiring is unlikely.

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:44 am

Yeah example number 9 car had no problems took the lead and held it.

To be honest without diesels the petrol battle is pretty good. like the asian le mans race. which was a good race...

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I mean if one car has a transmission failure for example, there are another two cars to back it up. Audi had a real pisser when it mattered - at Le Mans


Audi had that in 2008 which didn't 2007, Audi had the 3 cars running so they could use the other 2.

Like 2008 Peugeot lap le mans track in 3 minutes 18 seconds audi were 3.5seconds away from that which does tell something but things are closer but not much.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:50 am

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I mean if one car has a transmission failure for example, there are another two cars to back it up. Audi had a real pisser when it mattered - at Le Mans


Audi had that in 2008 which didn't 2007, Audi had the 3 cars running so they could use the other 2.


Precisely my point. Smile If one car goes up the pisser, you have the other two cars still running. That largely makes the whole 'anything can happen' notion a tad too optimistic.

Asian Le Mans was fine without diesels, well I certainly didn't miss them. But I do like factory teams, and thats why I want all prototype's to make a proper noise.

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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:31 pm

at le mans

when audi first showed up with the r10 it was 5 seconds a lap quicker

then the puegeot showed up it was nearly 10 seconds a lap quicker and the audi about 6 seconds a lap

last year the gap was 4 seconds. it does seem the aco are cutting them back slowly but surely and now they want porsche and toyota who will race petrols and with peugeot winning last year they have a massive incentive to give them and even bigger cut back.
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PostSubject: Re: AMR plans confirmed   Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:17 am

One thing ACO wanted was a peugeot to win le mans....anyway possible Wink

I think they will be more cuts, I think the diesels will be hammered.
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