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PostSubject: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:03 pm

It's possible that Highcroft will go back to the lmp2 acura arx01b for 2010.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:15 am

Could easily see that happening. Who would be the drivers.. David Brabham and who???
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:10 am

previous second drivers have been sharp obviously, johansson could be duncan dayton himself he still races historic stuff
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:17 am

But Scott Sharpe is racing in GT2 in his own team with ED brown.......
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:56 am

yeah that is true, i wonder why i didn't add that to my previos post??
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:43 am

If de ferran motorsports doesn't enter a car. I think it might be Simon Pagenaud......
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:06 am

Rumour in Autosport that Highcroft are one of the teams in the running to run the privateer Peugeot 908 next season in the ALMS
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:05 am

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Rumour in Autosport that Highcroft are one of the teams in the running to run the privateer Peugeot 908 next season in the ALMS

The same article in Autosport magazine stated that Peugeot were not keen on a private 908 running in America, and would prefer it to run in Europe because of lower costs. DAMS might run the 908 in LMS.

Have to say, having a private 908 against all the other P1 cars would be terrible for LMS. May as well hand the LMP1 title to DAMS or whoever now, with the speed of the Peugeot. It would mean though, nobody else would get a look in, apart from when Peugeot take there 908's to Spa for Le Mans preperation.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:24 am

i woundn't be so sure there'll run away with it. look at kolles they didn't win with the r10.

de ferran apparntly in the running for peugeot as well?

http://feedmesportscars.com/node/6764

some mock up of petential 908 for next year

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-2908.html

the highcroft car does look superb. I hope dams get the car if it looks like that.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:32 am

In 2008 the factory R10 was like a P2 car against the Peugeot, it was already outclassed. So in LMS it wasn't going to be great in a privateer's hands. The 908 on the other hand, still looked amazingly fast even against the R15 last month at Road Atlanta. So it will fly in LMS.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:55 am

The R10 is different to 908. Its much much harder to drive even Audi drivers said so in privateer hands it wasn't going to be front running untill they got it sort out. Plus R10 is not suited to the 09 regs compared to the 908.

I don't think they will be much P1 teams who can battle the 908 in LMS, I don't think aston martin are running there lola's...
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:00 am

Well look at it this way, if Audi couldn't make a brand new car that could compete with the speed of Peugeot's 908, who else will? So I agree.

The R10 was slow Mcnish's hands against the 908 in 2008, even though last year the R10 finished ahead because of Peugeot's strategy woes. So a privateer cannot do any better.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:23 am

the r15 ran 3 times, beat the peugeot at sebring, lost at le mans (because a lack of testing and the car basically clogged up and peugeot were better as a team) and petit mcnish lead then spun and the race ended.

the r15 was quick just needed more time and any car in private hands without can be slow.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:28 am

Not really, the best way to judge the raw performance of cars is to look at qualifying for Le Mans, and the Peugeot was still 1.5 seconds quicker then the R15 - thats a massive time deficit. Down the straights, the Audi was firmly thrashed. The Peugeot could just cruise up behind the R15 and overtake, just like it did at Le Mans. Le Mans is the race that matters, and the 908 was still a lot quicker, although not to the extent it was, when Audi were running the R10

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:38 am

qualifing at le mans is for the marketing men, the times mean very little. At le mans the r15 was outclassed, but not at sebring and at petit they were a lot closer.

At le mans the air flow system got clogged up with rubber and other debris slowing the down. The audi's also ran into tyre trouble with them going off into the forth stint but because of the new rules (one wheel gun, would be good for f1 me thinks!) meant they had to stay on the car.

The peugeot was better, but failed the car that won used the audi stratergy from before.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:42 am

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The R10 was slow Mcnish's hands against the 908 in 2008, even though last year the R10 finished ahead because of Peugeot's strategy woes. So a privateer cannot do any better.

It was at le mans and LMS but ALMS was other story, Yes the 908 was fastest still but not as fast. Audi had something different going on in ALMS compared to the LMS.

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Not really, the best way to judge the raw performance of cars is to look at qualifying for Le Mans, and the Peugeot was still 1.5 seconds quicker then the R15 - thats a massive time deficit. Down the straights, the Audi was firmly thrashed. The Peugeot could just cruise up behind the R15 and overtake, just like it did at Le Mans. Le Mans is the race that matters, and the 908 was still a lot quicker, although not to the extent it was, when Audi were running the R10

I think it quite hard to judge 2008 the 908 was at is fastest and best 8 and half miles in 3 minutes 19 seconds was the fastest race lap and the R10 was at the end of its time (kind of thing) 2009 Audi took a huge gamble desgining a car like that it does work we saw at sebring but lack racing messed it which was other gamble from Audi but If both had the cars at there best who would actaully win....I think Audi(not just becasue i am an Audi Fan Smile ).

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At le mans the air flow system got clogged up with rubber and other debris slowing the down. The audi's also ran into tyre trouble with them going off into the forth stint but because of the new rules (one wheel gun, would be good for f1 me thinks!) meant they had to stay on the car.

One thing about the new one wheel gun rules was to help the Coupe(or 908's) in the pit stops and jim roller said at le mans when Audi was having a convo about there pit stops with officals He said: They really must want the french car to win........
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:03 am

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but ALMS was other story, Audi had something different going on in ALMS compared to the LMS.

Audi's dominance in LMP1 in 2008 in ALMS was as worthy as Peugeot's white wash in LMS in 2007. Or in other words, the competition were all privateers and stood no chance. It was Audi v Audi in LMP1.

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If both had the cars at there best who would actaully win....I think Audi(not just becasue i am an Audi Fan ).

I'm not quite sure why that is important, Audi Sport didn't suddenly change as a team in 2009, they had a lot of time to build a new car with a healthy budget. Audi themselves, made the decision not to do conduct more track preparation. Peugeot simply did a better job in 2009, neither team was disadvantaged, it was the decisions that both teams made that ultimately decided who was victorious and who was not.

Don't quite understand 'if both cars were at there best', its Audi's job to make sure that its car is not festooned with faults come June, they didn't do that - so they lost. There is a saying: "you’re only as good as your last race". Well, in this circumstance, you’re only as good as your last season, and I'm afraid Peugeot did a better job in 2009, and it would be obtuse to just assume that Audi will once again rein in 2010. Peugeot have been knocking on the door since 2007, and for a team that was only formed in 2007, they have done a brilliant job.

Peugeot performed better then Audi this year. In terms of car, strategy, results and preparation. Both teams are brilliant, but its Audi's job to do a better job then Peugeot next year.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:21 am

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but ALMS was other story, Audi had something different going on in ALMS compared to the LMS.

Audi's dominance in LMP1 in 2008 in ALMS was as worthy as Peugeot's white wash in LMS in 2007. Or in other words, the competition were all privateers and stood no chance. It was Audi v Audi in LMP1.

Yes Audi did just battle them selfs in P1 but they way they went about it was different compare to LMS however Audi R10 had an aero up date in 2008 but when you saw Petit le mans Audi were closer to Peugeots If you look at Petit quali in 2008 it took peugeot over five laps get Pole that didn't happen much in 08.

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If both had the cars at there best who would actaully win....I think Audi(not just becasue i am an Audi Fan ).

Peugeot performed better then Audi this year. In terms of car, strategy, results and preparation. Both teams are brilliant, but its Audi's job to do a better job then Peugeot next year.[/quote]

in the terms of car, results and preparation yes....not strategy Audi drivers were in the car longer at le mans than the peugeot Audi made the right choices at petit le mans and Sebring Audi change tyres every stop was the right way for them.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:23 am

Peugeot won more races and won the race that matters, Le Mans. The end. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:30 am

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Peugeot won more races and won the race that matters, Le Mans. The end. Wink

Laughing Laughing

I hope they have good on boards cameras if they do run 908's becasue i my favourite from 08 was the 09 car with zonta and montagny at le mans more zoom out was better and i like the this years le mans facing the drivers was mint.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:04 am

True, they do moe onboard of the Audi's, probably because being an open cockpit, its easier to film.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:14 am

Highcroft to continue with Acura: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80318

So thats Highcroft ruled out for running a 908, attention returns to Europe. I cannot wait to see ALMS's combined prototype class, it could just be the shake up that prototype racing needs.

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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:32 am

excellent and it'll be nie to see them running the p2 as well which i will befaster under the new rules.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:57 am

YEAH!!! bravo Great news.
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PostSubject: Re: ALMS 2010 rumours entries   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:58 pm

More on Highcroft this time from Marshall Pruett

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/alms-acuras-evolution//P1/
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