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PostSubject: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:03 pm

12 rounds in 12 countries and spanning 5 continents.

I'm really disappointed that there is no Argentinian round.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:28 pm

retal's been smoking again

south africa i don't think will happen, there's only kyalami to hold it at anyway. So unless you were having trouble getting a date why announce south africa and not kyalami

Canada, not where might that be, it's circuit gilles villeneuve as that has just 2 weeks a year, 1 being formula 1 and the other being nationwide / grand am. That leaves, Mosport, st joviet (sp?), trois Riviers< toronto and Edmonton. Not sure that'll work.

China, Zhuhai or shanghai. Put it this way, Zhuhai great, shanghai rubbish

Brazil, interlagos, puebla. why go to brazil and not san luis as well?

i',m fed up with retal trying to ruin fia gt.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:42 am

He has no idea what he is doing. its going to be poor season next year. He has messed the FIA GT series up.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:06 am

I quite like the calendar, potentially it could visit some great tracks.

Abu Dubai should suit GT cars brilliantly, with the slow corners and long straights = massive braking zones. Of course their will always be those who say that Middle Eastern circuits are poisonous and dreadful, but as long as the racing is good – that’s fine by me.

Kylami has to be the track, I agree with cerca, why not just announce the South African round as Kylami, their isn’t exactly a vast number of tracks in South Africa which can host international FIA events. Unless FIA GT is going to Durban, which is unlikely!

As for Canada, that is puzzling. I’ve been looking at the Canadian IndyCar, NASCAR, F1 and ALMS rounds – and none of them are on the 4th July. So does that mean FIA GT will be a stand-alone event? That’s rather brave, considering IndyCar and ALMS often race on the same weekend to boost attendance figures, so essentially – FIA GT will attract loads of Canadian spectators on its own without other major series? Hmm…..

I agree with cerca about Zhulhai, that is a great track – I just hope that it isn’t the Shanghai track. I don’t mind about no Argentinean round, Interlagos in Brazil would be spectacular to watch. The racing would be amazingly thrilling, if F1 is entertaining around their – FIA GT stands a pretty good chance.

I think it’s a good world schedule, there are plenty of interesting and varied circuits. I’m glad that the German round will move to Nurburgring too, which is more suited to sportscars. I think Kylami should be replaced with Durban though on the streets, we need some mayhem and loads of safety car periods – Durban is ideal - although unlikely.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:20 am

its quite surprising that Nurburgring drop LMS For FIA GT knowing where Retal is taking the FIA GT series.

The brazil round should be at Interlagos i remember the LMS going there in 2007 which looked a great race.

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Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium) Spa 24hrs for GT2, GT3 and GT4 cars

WHAT IS THE POINT! Of having new GT1 regs which out having GT1's in there main event. I feel like punching Retal at minute.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:30 am

Whoo, Retel cannot be that bad! lol! He has drawn up a good schedule imo. Mind you, I find the whole GT2, GT3 and GT4 thing a bit too much. Just two classes are needed.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:40 am

FIA GT at the minute is fine. What is wrong with it. Great cars and the new cars are just so slow. If you look at spa 24 this year and Audi R8 GT3 beat all of the GT2 Field to claim 3rd overall. if an Audi R8 is the field it will win over all. To be honest the cars do look nice and would be good at le mans but The ALMS is looking the right way. GT2 is the new GT1 which part of the course and i think is the right way people need to a basic car to get going the challenge car is the way forward.

He has drawn up a good schedule. I agree but will it run good The Gt2 are close to biting on the heels over the new GT1

I still want to Punch him Angry
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:48 am

I've long said this, but ALMS is the way foward for sportscar racing. ALMS has debuted most of the finest and prestigious sportscars since its introduction, and has featured some quite amazing racing on a constant basis. And then for next year, ALMS is the series that is going to change the class system and car regulations to ensure that sportscar racing remains attractive.

Everybody else imo, including LMS - is merely a follower.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:06 am

Its the way forward ALMS. I think the Aco should take IMSA Rules but not on the P1/P2 classes i think Aco and Le mans if you want to fight overall you get a P1 not a P2 becasue its not right. Which i know few P1 teams are not happy about.

The LMS should follow
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:57 pm

i hate stephane retal more than spanky mosley.

year on year retal has tried everything he can to make fia gt worse, somehow the racing is still good but thats not down to him. He dosen't have a clue.

GT1 - hasn't worked properly since 2003 and need fiddling with right then, instead he did nothing so no one knew what was going and therefore didn't nothing about building new cars.

GT2 - It's great as it is now, loads of cars and teams with great racing except he allows the factory af corse team race and nominate and then decides that the class he really wants to change is the one thats working gt2.

GT3 - was a fluke, but by year 2 it was already falling down. Ford bloking the likes of mosler entering and then requiring homogations. Then theres the enpense of it, you could race a P2 car foe the same budget as gt3 and that dosen't include all the expensive updates every year. And then there preformace balancing which makes fast cars into slow one and ruining a whole season, so teams are forced to by faster cars which are then balanced back to the back of the gird again

GT4 - works just about, except there slower than wtcc.

British gt - well once again it's another retal disaster. GT1 ran it's course and there were no cars, GT1 ran it's course and there were no cars (thats GT1 2000), then there was gt2 which ran it's course and there were no cars. Now there GT3 and there no cars, at some races this years there were less than 12 entrants. Basically BGT has the same trouble GT1 has rather than saying, right these are the rules, lets race with then for 5 years. No one knew year to year what was happening therefore nmo one bought cars and therefore there was no cars.
Compare this it GT Cup and Britcar which both are runnign upwards of 30 cars and in most case more like 40.

Belgian GT (belcar) - Belcar was great, soemthing to be prowd of. GT1's, GT2's and anything else you wanted really. They would try and fit you in. Would anyon like a BMW mini with a BMW M3 engine, well in belcar there was. Then along come retal with his crappy gt3 and the grids get cut in half all the great and fun cars dissapear as do all the long races (except the 24 hours of zolder which 1 year had about 18 entrants) 2 times 1 hour races rather than a good 10 hours, it didn't work ad people left the series.
In favour of the Dunlop sports maxx endurance series which guess what is everything belcar was.

need i go on?
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:59 pm

on the calendar,

for example the south african round. The only reason Kyalami isn't confirmed is (and i'm guess) they can't agree terms or the date.


typical retal and I suspect that most of the non european rounds won't happen.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:06 am

Well if that happens, their is no point in it being called a 'world' championship.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:12 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:25 pm

look at this.

The FIA World Motor Sport Council met in Paris on 21st October 2009, during which the calendars for the 2010 FIA GT1 World Championship, FIA GT2 European Championship and FIA GT3 European Championship were approved.

The calendars are as follows:

2010 FIA GT1 World Championship
4/4 UAE Yas Marina**
18/4 ZA South Africa*
2/5 GB Silverstone Supercar 2010
16/5 CZ Brno
30/5 F Paul Ricard
4/7 CDN Canada*
1/8 B Total 24H of Spa-Francorchamps*
29/8 D Nürburgring
12/9 P Circuito Algarve
3/10 H Budapest*
14/11 CN China*
28/11 BR Brazil*

*Subject to the ASN's confirmation
**Subject to the homologation of the circuit.

2010 FIA GT2 European Championship

2/5 GB Silverstone Supercar 2010
16/5 CZ Brno
30/5 F Paul Ricard
20/6 D Oschersleben
1/8 B Total 24H of Spa-Francorchamps
29/8 D Nürburgring
12/9 P Circuito Algarve
3/10 H Budapest*
17/10 B Zolder

*Subject to the ASN's confirmation

2010 FIA GT3 European Championship

2/5 GB Silverstone Supercar 2010
16/5 CZ Brno
30/5 F Paul Ricard
20/6 D Oschersleben
12/9 P Circuito Algarve
3/10 H Budapest*

*Subject to the ASN's confirmation

So GT2 cars will not be in the main 2010 world championship.....

Did anyone see the GT3 race it was very good. Sav would liked it had safety car period in. Audi R8 would the title of Phoenix Racing with Christopher Haase and Christopher Mies racing into the night Very Happy very good
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:33 am

The GT2 was always going to be a separate European Championship. I thought the Spa 24Hrs was going to be a GT2 round for the European Championship only with the GT1 cars having a separate 2 hour race. That is not so clear from the dates shown Question

Don't know whats going on. The GT1 stuff looks like a disaster in the making, but I will reserve judgement until I see it in action. I suppose at the end of the day, it all depends on the quantity and quality of the entries.

Meanwhile a well supported Euro only GT2 series is an excellent idea IMO. Hope it gets the TV coverage it deserves in th UK.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:01 am

most of the new gt1 is the current gt1, the mc12, the dbr9, and the c6r. There being grandfathered in.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:42 am

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Did anyone see the GT3 race it was very good. Sav would liked it had safety car period in. Audi R8 would the title of Phoenix Racing with Christopher Haase and Christopher Mies racing into the night Very Happy very good

Sounds good to me, the crucial element of a good race. bravo ten

I prefer GT2 anyway, you get a better variety of cars in most series and are more fun to watch. I do think the FIA's plans for GT1 are a tad over-ambitious, are their seriously going to be large crowds at the venues in the new countries? Hmm, why doesn't it tie up with WTCC for some events? WTCC seems to attract large crowd sizes at every round.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:12 am

i am still for GT2, and GT3 taking over. Its the way forward.

Nürburgring has drop the LMS for FIA GT hoping for more people . If Vitaphone are still next year alot people will show up, Oschersleben was very popular for them.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:21 pm

it's not te fia it's the sro, the setpahne retal is a _ _ _ _ organisation.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:02 am

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it's not te fia it's the sro, the setpahne retal is a _ _ _ _ organisation.
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lol! ten


Is the new 2010 championship a new series or a replacement for FIA GT current one becasue on the FIA GT site is says the calendar starts a silverstone and ends in zolder??
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:44 am

I remember when FIA GT used to partner WTCC in 2005, it was fantastic.

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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:26 pm

haha!
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:58 am

MotorracingP wrote:

Is the new 2010 championship a new series or a replacement for FIA GT current one becasue on the FIA GT site is says the calendar starts a silverstone and ends in zolder??

The dates shown are for the European GT2 championship.

Click on a date and it will show under "Other Events" whether the date is shared with the FIA GT "World" Championship.
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:43 am

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad how disapointing Sad

I will miss the current FIA GT series
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PostSubject: Re: 2010 - Provisional Dates announced   Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:23 am

Argentina back on GT1 calendar: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80560

Good news, although there seems to be a lot of negativity about the new FIA GT series, that is actually a great schedule. Visiting so many great circuits. It'll be interesting to see what configuration they use for Abu Dubai, as shown for the F1 round, the track has many track configurations that can be used. Whether all the venue's are visited, i.e. do not drop out, is another matter.

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