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PostSubject: F2 Brands   Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:21 pm

Looks like Henty Surtees just caught a loose tyre from an accident ahead of him right in the face, he just continued straight on at next corner - doesnt look good but i hope he's ok. Red flag out.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:17 am

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77071
no news yet, Soucek wins.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:21 am

This does not sound good at all.

It is one area that has really not improved over the last god knows how many years.

Just hope that everything is ok.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:43 am

Yes it was a nasty incident for Surtees, the wheel flew into his head at great speed, the helmet would have absorbed some of the impact, but its obvious that a flying tyre to the head is going to hurt!

The incident seems very serious, after all they had to bring the SC car in the WTCC to allow the medical helicopter to take off with Surtees inside, clearly it was an urgent issue.

I think the GP section at Brands Hatch is awesome and must be a brilliant spectating area, being so close to the cars. But one has to wonder why suitable those F2 cars are at Brands Hatch GP, I mean they have 400 bhp, high cornering speeds - and a run off into the dirt results in very nasty shunts. For the faster machinery, it would be a good idea to move the barriers back. Because that amount of run off is unacceptable. Fine for touring cars, not for high speed open wheel cars.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:59 am

There are similarities to the accident that killed Tom Pryce at Kyalami in 1977 ( for those who don't know he was struck in the face by a fire extinguisher, which was being carried across the track by a marshall during the race, and who was struck by a car flinging both marshall and extinguisher, which hit the unfortunate Pryce, the marshall dies as well)
I hope safety advances have meant Henry is gonna be ok, but as soon as i saw it i thought of the Viso GP2 crash in Magny Cours where i thought he wouldn't have survived his horrific accident.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:04 am

Yikes, Pryce's accident sounded nasty. affraid No

On the one hand, perhaps the accident could not have been prevented. But if there was more run off area, I don't think that would have occured. Lets be honest, when something goes wrong at Westfield or Sheene curve, it's always going to be messy. I would extend the run off areas, boring - but needed IMO.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:27 am

Sav 1 wrote:
Yikes, Pryce's accident sounded nasty. affraid No

It was m8, they could not identify which marshal it was that was hit. The only way they could do it was too tick off who had arrived back to the after race marshals meeting. I have seen footage and do not search for it m8

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:30 am

Because some silly twat let builders build houses right up to the track there's no more room, the same houses that prevent more races on the GP layout also means no room to extend run off.

The Pryce incident was one of the worst i've ever seen i saw it in the early 80's on a racing video and have had no wish to view it again.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:32 am

boyhitscarpimp wrote:


The Pryce incident was one of the worst i've ever seen i saw it in the early 80's on a racing video and have had no wish to view it again.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:33 am

Yep I think that is best m8, seeing people die is never nice. Obviously todays situation is less sevre, but some comparsions can be made. Didn't Martin Haven mention that the cameraman was possibly injured? I may have made that up.

Oh dear look the Brands Hatch residents ruin things again, I hope they are happy with themselves. Less racing on the GP track and more dangerous. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:46 am

Damn... that's very bad news.

I have never been at a motorsport event where there's a really serious accident, but it must be awful for the spectators too. When I saw those two washed to their deaths last month it took me a little while to get over it, I'd imagine it'd be the same sort of thing if there's a good chance somebody has died.

Fingers crossed Surtees will make a rapid recovery, but the news doesn't seem very positive at the moment. If it wasn't very serious they'd have said something reassuring by now.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:31 am

I missed the end of race due to moto gp....
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:35 am

Sorry to have to be the one to say this but unfortunately Henry has succumbed to his injuries and has died in hospital

Shocked Crying or Very sad


Just read this on autosports webby


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77088




RIP


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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:37 am

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77088

RIP Henry Surtees.

18, too young.

Reminds me of Ayrton's fatal crash. F2 was created too hastily and Surtees unfortunately has found that out. Where was the technology to stop wheels falling off like F1 has?
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:38 am

Matt beat me. Sorry for double post of horrid link.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:39 am

Shocked Shocked Crying or Very sad RIP
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:40 am

RIP to a promising young driver... cant believe it to be honest, only 18 as well...

Looking at it on youtube before he was confirmed dead, the wheel tethers look as though they are there, but it looks like either the tether broke, or suspension came off. If that is the case, then unfortunately theres not a lot tht could have happened. Thoughts are with the family
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:44 am

Very sad news. Sending positive thoughts to mum and dad. Must be devastated, and so young too :-(

Hope there's a thorough investigation as to what happened and revisions made to the cars if necessary to prevent it happening again.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:48 am

What very sad news !
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:50 am

Very sad to lose someone so young. My thoughts are with his family and friends.

RIP Henry
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:29 am

Absolutely tragic news, my sincere condolences go to the Surtees family and his friends, this is also devastating news to the motor racing community.

Could it have been prevented? Well, is it possible to prevent wheels falling of an open wheel car? I am not actually sure, but if it could be done somehow – that would be good. If you remember Kubica’s accident during the 2007 Canadian Grand Prix, wheels went flying everywhere – and a wheel could have easily hit spectators.

I don’t blame the Brands Hatch organisers, because ultimately circuits can only learn from fatalities and try and make it safer. However, one has to question the lack of run off at Westfield. Where Jack Clarke went off, there was barley any run off. If there was more run off perhaps the rear wheel would not have been so violently ripped off. I know we all love circuits ‘character’, however I suggest just making the run off areas bigger. Otherwise, just don’t let fast open wheel cars run around here.

People sometimes talk about running an F1 race around Brands, well now you can see the risks. Just imagine, an F1 car would easily be going over 150 mph through there – basically no run off and the risks of flying wheels.

I think if the run off cannot be extended, then I would consider running no single seater races at all on Brands Hatch GP circuit. Suddenly, those big run off areas at modern circuits don’t look so boring and silly. Of course, there are always big risks in motor racing. But those run off areas on the GP section at Brands are laughable for open wheel cars.

Will helmet technology have to be improved, after this? Also, don’t F1 cars have that padded cell, after Wurz’s head almost got clobbered after Coulthard crashed into him? Hmm…, anyway this is extremely sad.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:30 am

well... il be honest I AM LOST FOR WORDS !!. i was with john and henry shortly before that tragic lap and it just dont seem right. it a sad and tragic loss of a what i beleive a rising star of the future and son of a legend too and at such a young age !!. R.I.P HENRY. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:02 am

Just got back to Leicester ready for work at 6am tomorrow and seen this sad news. Condolences to The Surtees family and friends.
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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:35 am

Very sad news, My thoughts are with his family. R.I.P Henry.

I've just read about it on teletext to see if he was ok as i've been stuck at work so been catching up on the bike racing since I got in. I also recorded the Wtcc which sadly had the crash on at the time.

It has been a very bad year for Brands Hatch after losing Craig Jones last year in the World supersports and now this.

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PostSubject: Re: F2 Brands   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:45 pm

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